May 3, 1946

POLICY RESPECTING OWNERSHIP OF RADIO STATIONS


On the orders of the day:


PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. J. G. DIEFENBAKER (Lake Centre):

I wish to direct a question to the Minister of Reconstruction. Press reports indicate that the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation is about to take over two radio stations owned by the Manitoba government. If this be so, in view of the refusal of the Canadian Broadi-casting Corporation to issue a licence to the Saskatchewan government for a radio station, what change if any has taken place in the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation's policy in regard to ownership of radios, and for what reason?

Topic:   RADIO BROADCASTING
Subtopic:   POLICY RESPECTING OWNERSHIP OF RADIO STATIONS
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Reconstruction and Supply)

Liberal

Hon. C. D. HOWE (Minister of Reconstruction) :

This question relates to broadcasting policy and should more properly be answered by the Minister of National Revenue. However, I can say the government has decided that, since broadcasting is the sole responsibility of the dominion government, broadcasting licences shall not be issued to other governments or corporations owned by other governments. In regard to the two stations in Manitoba, discussions are taking place with 63260-74 j

the government of that province which we hope will lead to the purchase of these two stations by the dominion government.

Topic:   RADIO BROADCASTING
Subtopic:   POLICY RESPECTING OWNERSHIP OF RADIO STATIONS
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CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP

NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS


The house resumed from Thursday, May 2, consideration in committee of bill No. 7, respecting citizenship, nationality, and naturalization and status of aliens-Mr. Martin-Mr. Golding in the chair.


LIB

William Henry Golding

Liberal

The ACTING CHAIRMAN (Mr. Golding):

The committee was considering section 21. Shall the section carry?

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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Section agreed to. Section 22 agreed to. On section 23-Citizenship of spouse or minor children.


PC

Donald Methuen Fleming

Progressive Conservative

Mr. FLEMING:

In line 31, subsection 2,

the power conferred on the governor in council is purely enabling. Is there any reason why the section should not be made mandatory instead of enabling or permissive?

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

There is no change in

substance in this section and it is thought, in view of the experience we have had in the department, and the practice of other countries, that this is the best way to leave the matter.

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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PC

Howard Charles Green

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GREEN:

If this section passes what

will the law be in regard to minor children? If the father loses Canadian citizenship, will the minor children also lose theirs? There seems to be some uncertainty in the wording of the section.

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

It is a question of discretion. There is a distinction, as regards the position of the wife or children, in cases where a second nationality is acquired and cases of automatic loss or revocation. Greater consideration is given in the latter case because there is a greater possibility that the child may not acquire any other nationality. Also, revocation and loss are in the form of punishment which should not be automatically visited upon the children, whereas a deliberate change of nationality is now in the nature of a voluntary transfer of allegiance.

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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Section agreed to. Section 24 agreed to. On section 25-Saving of obligations incurred before loss of citizenship.


PC

John George Diefenbaker

Progressive Conservative

Mr. DIEFENBAKER:

What is the purport of section 25, and what particular circumstances does it contemplate?

Canadian Citizenship

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

It would cover the case

where a person commits treason. He does not thereby become discharged from any obligation, duty or liability in respect of anything done or omitted before he ceased to be a Canadian subject. It means exactly what it says. Mere loss does not interfere with other obligations he may have incurred.

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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Section agreed to. On section 26-Canadian citizen a British subject.


CCF

Alistair McLeod Stewart

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. STEWART (Winnipeg North):

I

should like to refer to a news item which appeared in the Montreal Gazette of April 6 having reference to the second reading in the British House of Commons of a bill with respect to British nationals. The article refers to this measure as the surrender of a small measure of sovereignty to the world peace organization. I quote: *

The bill, which Philip Noel-Baker, minister of state, characterized as a modest step toward "effective machinery to stop aggression," empowers the government to impose on British subjects the duty of abiding by the rulings of the council involving severance of diplomatic and economic relations with other countries.

The measure thus gives effect to provisions of Article 41 of the charter signed by Britain which reads: [DOT]

"The security council may decide what measures, not involving the use of armed forces, are to be employed to give effect to its decisions and it may call upon members of the united nations to apply such measures. These may include complete or partial interruption of economic relations and of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraphic, radio and other means of communications and severance of diplomatic relations."

We have arrogated to ourselves the right to decide who shall or shall not be British subjects, and I should like to know first of all whether this new British legislation affects us under section 26 of this bill.

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin (Secretary of State of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

The answer is no.

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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CCF

Alistair McLeod Stewart

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. STEWART (Winnipeg North):

Then that is settled. I do not know, however, whether this country has the right to state who shall be a British subject. I am not a constitutional lawyer, but I think we would have the right to decide as regards citizens in Canada only. I should like to know what the status of these citizens would be when they left Canada for a holiday or for business or for any other reason. Would1 they still be called British subjects? I doubt very much whether this government could legislate in that regard. In other words, I think the clause is ultra vires of the House of Commons, and so I intend to offer an amendment.

Topic:   CANADIAN CITIZENSHIP
Subtopic:   NATIONALITY, NATURALIZATION AND STATUS OF ALIENS
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May 3, 1946