April 16, 1946

LABOUR CONDITIONS

GREAT LAKES SEAMEN'-HOURS OF WORK


On the orders of the day:


PC

John Bracken (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. JOHN BRACKEN (Leader of the Opposition):

A matter of some urgency has just come to my attention about which I would like to make an inquiry of the government. I am told that there are seamen employed on vessels operated by the Department of Transport and other owners who are working as long as eighty-four hours a week on the great lakes. What steps if any is the government taking to rectify this matter and thereby avoid a threatened seamen's strike?

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. HUMPHREY MITCHELL (Minister of Labour):

I wish to thank the leader of the opposition for giving me notice of this question. In so far as it refers to the operation of v'essels controlled by the Department of Transport I think I should leave it to my colleague, the Minister of Transport, to reply.

With respect to the privately owned and controlled companies operating vessels on the great lakes and the dispute with the seamen, my department has been endeavouring to get the parties into collective bargaining negotiations in accordance with the provisions of P.C. 1003. A preliminary conference was arranged for April 8 in Toronto, but the representatives of the Canadian saemen's union did not attend, claiming that it was their under-

Labour Conditions

standing that the conference was to be held in Toronto in the office of the Department of Labour, and that an officer of the department was to attend.. This was not the understanding of myself or the officers of my department.

At the present time the agreements between certain operators and the union call for a twelye hour day except for firemen, but when the last collective agreement was signed the question of hours of work per day was left open to further negotiations. For the present these negotiations have not yielded any result, and it is the view of the department that the conciliation processes of our legislation should be invoked by- the union or the companies. We are informed by the representatives of the companies concerned that a meeting of all operators of great lakes vessels is to be held in Toronto on April 24, and following that the operators will have a concrete proposal to submit to the union executive. It is our hope that the parties will then enter into negotiations looking toward a settlement of the dispute.

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PC

John Bracken (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. BRACKEN:

I did not send a copy of this question to the Minister of Transport. I wonder whether he could add anything to what the Minister of Labour has said.

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Hon. LIONEL CHEVRIER (Minister of Transport):

Yes. I was advised by the Minister of Labour when we were coming down to the house that the hon. member intended to ask this question. I can say that so far as the Department of Transport is concerned we believe we have the equivalent of an eight hour day on the ships operated by the department, although it is true we do not pay overtime. There are seasons in the year when it is occasionally necessary to send out lighthouse supplies, and where it is deemed advisable for the crew to work more than eight hours. When that is done the men get time off as soon as they reach their home port. In fact there are seasons in the year when officers of these ships are on call. They have to go out at night and do certain work. There are seasons of the year when because of the weather it is impossible to move. When it is impossible to move and the men work only two or three hours, they are paid for eight hours. When they work over eight hours, they get, as I said a moment ago, time off at the home port. Therefore we consider that in effect we have the equivalent of an eight-hour day.

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Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

May I ask the minister a supplementary question? When they work only two or three hours a day in bad weather, are they on duty for the rest of the time, and on call?

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LIB

Lionel Chevrier (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. CHEVRIER:

Yes, they are on duty for the rest of the time.

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ROYAL MILITARY COLLEGE

REFERENCE TO MINISTER'S ADDRESS IN CORNWALL -MILITARY TRAINING REQUIREMENTS


On the orders of the day:


PC

Thomas Ashmore Kidd

Progressive Conservative

Mr. T. A. KIDD (Kingston City):

I should like to direct a question to the Minister of National Defence. Will the minister clarify the statement with regard to the Royal Military College, Kingston, which he released to the press in Cornwall yesterday?

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of National Defence; Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Hon. DOUGLAS ABBOTT (Minister of National Defence):

I did not release any statement to the press. I was making a speech in Cornwall yesterday, but I do not suppose the house would care to have me repeat it.

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?

Some hon. MEMBERS:

No.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of National Defence; Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT:

Briefly, what I said with respect to the Royal Military College was this, that contrary to rumours, the military college would not be closed, but the question now under consideration was whether or not the character of the course, the syllabus and so on, would be that conducted before the war or a different one, and that that question had not yet been decided.

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PC

George Randolph Pearkes

Progressive Conservative

Mr. PEARKES:

Mr. Speaker, a question arising out of the previous question: Will the Minister of National Defence say whether the Royal Military College will be open for courses this year for young men without previous military training?

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of National Defence; Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT:

The answer is, it will not.

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April 16, 1946