November 14, 1945

MOTIONS FOR PAPERS

EMPLOYMENT

CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

For a copy of all correspondence between the deputy minister or other officials of the Department of Labour and the advisory boards of the department, dated since V-E day, dealing with the question of suitable employment.

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

This motion asks for the production of correspondence between officials of the Department of Labour. As he well knows, such correspondence is privileged and cannot be tabled.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

As indicated by the

minister two days ago, he sent me privately the documents which I ask to be tabled by this motion. I have considered them carefully and I have also consulted with some of my colleagues about them. I cannot see that they are privileged. I feel that they are documents that should be published because they have to do with the administration of an act of this parliament and have a bearing on the level of wages in this country. I feel that the motion should be carried.

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

It is not for my hon. friend to say what is privileged; that is a matter of precedent and procedure in this House of Commons. I do not think my hon. friend should abuse a courtesy, and I must insist that correspondence of this kind, between officials and a minister, cannot be tabled and is not tabled in this House of Commons.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

Is this not correspondence largely between the minister and different labour offices in the country giving instructions? Should we not know what instructions have been given by the department?

Motions for Papers

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

If it is instructions, that is an entirely different matter. The motion says, "between the deputy minister or other officials", which is an entirely different matter. If the principle of tabling correspondence of this kind were to be established you would not need' any officials because you could never get a frank opinion from them. Every document or memorandum would' be predicated) on the possibility of its being tabled in this House of Commons. I think that answers the question. We ought to *understand that.

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CCF

Stanley Howard Knowles (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. KNOWLES:

I was told by the deputy minister that this motion would not involve the production of any letters, but only certain circulars, copies of which have been furnished to me privately. I have studied them carefully and I do not agree that they are privileged documents.

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LIB

James Horace King (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I must draw the attention of the house to the fact that notices of motions for the production of papers are not debatable. H there is any objection to the minister's suggestion that the hon. member should withdraw his motion, I have only one choice and that is to put the motion to the house.

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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Veterans Affairs; Leader of the Government in the House of Commons; Liberal Party House Leader)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE:

I was paired with the hon. member for Peel (Mr. Graydon). Had I voted, I would have voted against the motion.

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PC

John Bracken (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Progressive Conservative

Mr. BRACKEN:

I was paired with the Prime Minister (Mr. Mackenzie King). Had I voted, I would have voted for the motion.

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PC

Winfield Chester Scott McLure

Progressive Conservative

Mr. McLURE:

I was paired with the hon. member for Kent, N.B. (Mr. Leger). Had I voted, I would have voted for the motion.

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LIB

Roland Beaudry

Liberal

Mr. BEAUDRY:

I was paired with the hon. member for London (Mr. Manross). Had I voted, I would have voted against the motion.

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PC

Harry Rutherford Jackman

Progressive Conservative

Mr. JACKMAN:

I was paired with the hon. member for Maisonneuve-Rosemont (Mr. Fournier). Had I voted, I would have voted for the motion.

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PC

Lewis Elston Cardiff

Progressive Conservative

Mr. CARDIFF:

I was paired with the hon. member for Chateauguay-Huntingdon (Mr. Black). Had I voted. I would have voted for the motion.

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LIB

Clovis-Thomas Richard

Liberal

Mr. RICHARD (Gloucester):

I was paired with the hon. member for St. John-Albert (Mr. Hazen). Had I voted, I would have voted against the motion.

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LIB

Robert McCubbin

Liberal

Mr. McCUBBIN:

I was paired with the hon. member for Middlesex East (Mr. White). Had I voted, I would have voted against the motion.

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IND

Liguori Lacombe

Independent

Mr. LACOMBE:

I was paired with the hon. member for Terrebonne (Mr. Bertrand). Had I voted, I would have voted for the motion.

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IND

Herbert Wilfred Herridge

Independent C.C.F.

Mr. HERRIDGE:

I was paired with the hon. member for Vancouver North (Mr. Sinclair). Had I voted, I would have voted for the motion.

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November 14, 1945