November 12, 1945

VETERANS AFFAIRS


Second and third reports of special committee on veterans affairs.-Mr. Tucker.


PRIVILEGE-MR. GOLDING REFERENCE TO OBSERVATIONS OF MR. BRUCE ON RULING IN COMMITTEE ON NOVEMBER 7

LIB

William Henry Golding

Liberal

Mr. W. H. GOLDING (Huron-Perth):

Mr. Speaker, on a question of privilege I would like to correct a statement appearing on page 1916 of Hansard of November 7. This statement was made by the hon. member for Park-dale (Mr. Bruce), speaking on a question of privilege in which he took exception to certain words used by the hon. member for Temis-couata (Mr. Pouliot) in a speech made by that hon. gentleman in committee on Tuesday, October 30. The statement reads:

When the words were used by the hon. member foe Temiscouata as applied to me I was not in the chamber, and therefore it was the duty of the Deputy Speaker, who was in the chair, to take the necessary steps to see that the member who used those offensive. words withdrew them. But he did not do so, and therefore, Mr. Speaker, I maintain that there was a dereliction of duty on his part, and I hope that when this committee meets it will revise the rules so as to provide a suitable punishment for such an offence.

In all fairness, Mr. Speaker, I wish to point out that if there is any charge of dereliction of duty or any criticism to be made against the chairman, such charges should be made against myself and not against my good friend the Deputy Speaker, as I happened to be the acting chairman at that particular time.

I might also say that no objection or point of order was raised by any hon. member of the committee, and rightly or wrongly I was under the impression that the words were used against the press report that the hon. member for Temiscouata had been referring to.

I am quite sure that the hon. member for Parkdale will wish me to make this correction, as I am satisfied that he would not willingly

leave the impression that our Deputy Speaker was the one to blame for what happened as far as the Chair is concerned.

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IND

Jean-François Pouliot

Independent Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

Nothing happened.

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PARLIAMENTARY RESTAURANT


Hon. IAN A. MACKENZIE (Minister of Veterans Affairs) moved): That Messrs. Black (Yukon). Bradshaw, Breithaupt. Cote (Matapedia-Matane), Coyle. Gariepy, Gladstone, Gourd, Isn'or, Jutras, Laurendeau, Leger, Lesage, Marshall. Mayhew, McGregor, Mclvor, Murphy, Rose, Tustin, Wright and Mrs. Strum, be appointed to assist His Honour the Speaker in the direction of the restaurant, as far as the interests of the Commons are concerned, and to act as members of a joint committee of both houses on the restaurant. Motion agreed to.


FISH INSPECTION ACT

DEFINITION OF FISH TO INCLUDE SHELLFISH- PROCESSING AND MARKING-POWER OF SEIZURE AND CONFISCATION


On the order: Hon. H. F. G. BRIDGES (Minister of Fisheries) moved for leave to introduce bill No. 91, to amend the Fish Inspection Act.


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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Explain.

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LIB

Hedley Francis Gregory Bridges (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. BRIDGES:

The objects of this bill

are threefold: first, to extend the definition of the word "fish" to include shellfish; second, to enable the governor in council to make regulations respecting the processing and marking of fish to be packed in containers, and, third, to provide for seizure as well as for powers of confiscation upon conviction for an offence against the act or-regulations. The last named addition will bring this act in line with the Fisheries Act and the Meat and Canned Foods Act.

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PC

Karl Kenneth Homuth

Progressive Conservative

Mr. HOMUTH:

What about the ordinary

fish?

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LIB

Hedley Francis Gregory Bridges (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. BRIDGES:

They are on the other side of the house. .

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time. .

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PENITENTIARY ACT

TERM OF OFFICE OF COMMISSIONERS-SUPERANNUATION-PROCLAMATION OF ACT IN PART OR WHOLE


Hon. L. S. ST. LAURENT (Minister of Justice) moved for leave to introduce bill No. 92, to amend the Penitentiary Act, 1939.


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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Explain.

Labour Conditions

Mr. ST. LAURENT: Following the report of the royal commission on penitentiaries, parliament in 1939 adopted a statute called the Penitentiaries Act, 1939, which was to come into force by proclamation when provision had been made for the appointment of commissioners to administer the penitentiaries. War broke out before these appointments were made, and as a consequence the act was never proclaimed. From its text it evidently had been intended to apply during the fiscal year then current, because it included special provisions affecting the appropriations of the Department of Justice for the year ended March 31, 1940.

* During the war it was not deemed proper to do anything further about implementing the substantial recommendations of this commission. Active hostilities having ceased, and it being possible to expect greater ease in finding both materials for construction that would be necessary in implementing the report, and the additional trained man-power to staff the penitentiaries, it is now considered proper to proceed further with the implementing of the recommendations. It was thought necessary for that purpose to provide certain amendments to the statute so that it would be practicable when proclaimed.

The amendments intended to be provided by this bill are first of all to determine that the commissioners, instead of being appointed for a term of ten years, shall, like most other civil servants, be appointed to hold office during pleasure. I am told it was found that that was the objection to getting men who had been approached in the 1939 period to consent to serve as commissioners. The objection was ' that it was an appointment for a period of ten years with no pension provisions, and therefore it was not attractive.

First the amendment provides that the commissioners be appointed to hold office during pleasure; second, that they come under the provisions of the Superannuation Act, and third, that instead of the whole act being proclaimed and the three commisisoners being appointed at once, a part of the act or the whole act may come into force by .proclamation and one or more commissioners be appointed.

I found on examination that there was very much preliminary work to be done before a penitentiary commission could operate on the lines recommended by the penitentiary report, and that it might be found more desirable to appoint one commissioner to do the preparatory work before an attempt was made to implement the -whole of the report.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

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CITY OF OTTAWA AGREEMENT


AUTHORIZATION OF PAYMENT OF $300,000 FOR FIVE YEARS ENDING JULY 1, 1949 [DOT] Hon. ALPHONSE FOURNIER (Minister of Public Works) moved that the house go into committee at the next sitting to consider the following resolution: That it is expedient to present a measure to authorize the Minister of Public Works on behalf of His Majesty, to enter into an agreement to pay to the corporation of the city of Ottawa the sum of $300,066 annually for a period of five years from the first day of July, 1944, and for other purposes stated in the agreement. ' He said: His Excellency the Administrator, having been made acquainted with the subject matter of this resolution, recommends it to the consideration of the house. Motion agreed to.


November 12, 1945