October 11, 1945

NEWSPRINT

PRESS REPORTS AS TO SUSPENSION OF IMPORTS TO BRITAIN FROM CANADA

LIB

James Angus MacKinnon (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Hon. J. A. MacKINNON (Minister of Trade and Commerce):

A few days ago the hon. member for Peel (Mr. Graydon) asked me a question regarding the reported cancellation of Canadian newsprint contracts by the United Kingdom authorities. I stated at the time that I would have the matter looked into, and I am now in a position to make this brief statement.

As a result of various representations which have been made through both government and industry channels, the United Kingdom authorities have agreed to accept a definite tonnage of Canadian newsprint during 1946. The tonnage specified is considerably less than the original contract amount, but is nevertheless a not inconsiderable volume. Delivery of the remainder of the contract amount is postponed. The settlement which has been arrived at is, under all the circumstances, a reasonable one, and is I believe .acceptable to the Canadian producers.

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PC

Gordon Graydon

Progressive Conservative

Mr. GRAYDON:

Will the minister please inform the house what the tonnage is that he refers to?

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LIB

James Angus MacKinnon (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. MacKINNON:

I have not the figures before me.

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CANADIAN ARMY

DISMISSAL OF EDITOR OF "MAPLE LEAF"-POLICY IN REPATRIATION OF N.R.M.A. SERVICE PERSONNEL

LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of National Defence; Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Hon. DOUGLAS ABBOTT (Minister of National Defence):

A week or ten days ago I gave an undertaking to my hon. friend the member for Vancouver South (Mr. Green) that I would put on Hansard, as soon as I received them, the two editorials in the Maple Leaf which were made the subject of his question. I now have them. The other day I said

Canadian Army-"Maple Leaf"

I would table them but was advised that they would not be printed in Hansard. In order to carry out my undertaking I will therefore read them to-day.

The first appeared in the Maple Leaf oni September 19, and is entitled, "On this Repat Question the Maple Leaf Reveals . . . -"

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Dispense.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of National Defence; Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT:

The second appeared in the Maple Leaf for September 20, 1945, the following day, and is entitled, "To Continue . . .

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Dispense.

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LIB

Douglas Charles Abbott (Minister of National Defence; Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. ABBOTT:

Hansard will reproduce the editorials.

(Editorial of September 19)

On This Repat Question the Maple Leaf Reveals . . .

There's no reason to entitle this piece "To Whom It May Concern" for it concerns the whole Canadian army, the Canadian government and the Canadian people and there's no "may" about it. It's the result of a Maple Leaf investigation on repat drafts that produced facts and figures adding up to something that shouldn't * happen to a soldier-and we mean fighting soldier.

The Maple Leafs investigation led from Nijmegen to No. 8 Repat Depot in England and involved the Saskatoon Light Infantry, support battalion with the First Canadian Infantry Division, first unit to go through the depot.

Here is the report:

"Really Boiling"

"Our draft is on the strength of 8 Repat Depot and in the same depot is the SLI. Started the investigation of two men with boxcar numbers on our draft by going to the records office and talked to ... on the PE. He had just been going over the SLI rolls and was really boiling. To start with, here's the point score of the draft:

Officers

Points Number

131 and over

11121 to 130

4111 to 120

1101 to 110

391 to 100

4

Warrant Officers

131 and over

691 to 100

1

S/Sgts. and Sgts.

131 and over

31121 to 130

1111 to 120

2101 to 110

491 to 100

181 to 90

171 to 80

1

Corporals

131 and over

10121 to 130

3111 to 120

5101 to 110

481 to 90

671 to 80

5

L/Cpls. and Privates

131 and over 48

121 to 130

21111 to 120

19101 to 110

3191 to 100

4081 to 90

2471 to 80

6361 to 70

6651 to 60

3450 and under (since taken off draft) . 7

The report continues: - "Okay so I can settle for most of that under the unit system of repat, but here is the dope that really hurts and don't think for a minute that many of the men in the U.K. here who are handling repat (plenty of them high-point men) aren't really burned about the whole deal:

Unit strength including rank of

corporal 382

(no NRMA men above corporal)

NRMA strength (boxcar numbers).. 115 Percentage of NRMA 30-1

(Report is that this is a little higher than non-unit drafts which normally run about 28 per cent at No. 8 Repat Depot.)

Taken at Random

Further -with the report: "Just to go a bit farther I asked to see the documents of some of the NRMA men to get a picture of their points and service. I "went through the documents-with an expert I might add. We took four cases, the first four we could find selected at random, and here you have it:

L85538 (old number L466249, number changed *when he w-ent active, see date below).

Pte. Usher, B. J.

Called up

TOS UK Went active TOS Europe 7 Garrison Battalion

SOS to SLI

9 Jun 42 (nonactive)

1 Jan 45 7 Mar 45 3 Jun 45 (sent to Europe after V-E day)

28 Jun 45

Point of interest: This man has seen no rpt no operational service and has a point score of 73.

L606762 Pte. Hazen, C. (still non-active)

Called up 12 Aug 42

TOS UK 10 Jan 45

SOS UK to 2 Garrison 24 May 45 (des-Battalion patched to Europe)

SOS to SLI 28 Jun 45

Going home with the unit, no operational duty and point score of 67.

L608521 Pte. Maier, E. B. (still non-active) Called up 7 Jan 43

TOS UK 1 Feb 45

SOS UK (CIC X4 list) 16 May 45

SOS to SLI 9 Jun 45

Going home with unit, no operational duty and point score of 56.

L608710 Pte. Olsen, A. C. (still non-active) Called up 5 Jan 43

TOS UK 3 Jan 45

SOS UK (CIC X4 list) 18 May 45

SOS to SLI 21 May 45

No operational duty, point score 57.

"Have gone into this matter pretty thoroughly and any men with six figure numbers (above

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600,000 at any rate) are definitely NRMA men. When they go active, and they could do so until after VE-Day, their number was changed as is the case with Usher.

"Something which bears an investigation and a good answer is how these men got posted to a First Division unit for return to Canada when they hadn't even left the U.K. on VE-Day. If this practice is being carried out by the reinforcement depots, which everything would lead me to suspect, then it's not good enough. There are a lot of fellows in L of C with high points who rate ahead of the NRMA men, of this category at least, who could be posted to units for return to Canada-not even taking into consideration the high point men from other active units who might like to have a look at Canada."

For Fighting Men

The Maple Leaf was established in Naples, in Italy, back in January, 1944, for Canadian Forces IN ACTION. The Maple Leaf has been produced for the soldiers, the fighting pien. The Maple Leaf has always done everything in its power to help the fighting men get a break. It's not stopping now.

This sort of business isn't funny. The men who volunteered to come overseas, who either went into action as volunteers or did their best as volunteers to see that the fighting men were equipped with the necessaries, deserve better treatment. This is an appeal on behalf of the volunteers who made this Canadian Army an army of which to be proud. All that is wanted is justice. J.D.M.

(Editorial of September 20)

To Continue . . .

Men in garrison battalions, called up under the National Resources Mobilization Act, still non-active, but going home. The more we think about it, the less we like it. We like it even less than we did yesterday which was something considerably short of small huzza.

Let's get the picture straight:

These men were called up as far back as 1942. So they didn't go active. So maybe that's their business. Some blame the system, some the men. Some don't blame anybody. Some, on the other hand, think everything worked out just dandy. Some, on the other hand, wrist and elbow, still think Canadian men should never have gone overseas at all. It's a matter of opinion.

But, whatever the opinion, these men didn't come overseas until early in 1945. And they didn't come to Europe until after V-E day, after the shooting had stopped. And they came in garrison battalions. Those garrison battalions, if memory serves correctly, were slated for the occupation force.

And what happens? Some of the men in them, who have just come overseas, who have never fired a round anywhere but on the ranges, are steered into a First Canadian Infantry Division unit draft for HOME!

It may be said that they were specialists, tradesmen. If they were, all the more reason for holding them in Europe and releasing active specialists and tradesmen in L of C and CAOF with the necessary point score. It may be said that they weren't specialists, that tbey were just a bunch of guys. If they were, guard duty for a while with the CAOF on them would look good.

[Mr. Abbott. 1

It may be said that they were needed to fill up unit drafts. And it may be answered-has the need ever been THAT great? A good many gents with the points and shooting service would like to know.

It may be said that it's the "luck of the draw". And it may be answered that this is too serious a business to leave to chance, that there was no "luck of the draw" when men volunteered to come overseas and do something aDout a war that needed winning.

It may be said that it's the system, that's the way it's laid down, and that's the way it's got to be; that the men in charge of repat overseas are hamstrung, are doing their best in the face of policy. That is probably the real answer. But policy has been changed before and can be again.

This situation cannot be corrected too soon.

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J. D. M. QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk).


SASKATCHEWAN AIRPORTS

CCF

Mr. McKAY:

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

1. What was the total cost of the land purchased for the airports at. (a) Weyburn, Saskatchewan; (b) Halbrite, Saskatchewan?

2. From what person or persons w'as the land purchased for the above named ports?

3. What acreage was purchased for each?

4. How much has been expended on the airport at Weyburn for, (a) surfacing highway; tb) draining airport; (c) constructing a water line from city of Weyburn to airfield?

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LIB

George James McIlraith (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Reconstruction)

Liberal

Mr. McILRAITH:

1, 2 and 3.

Re airport at Weyburn

Name Acreage AmountL. J. Emery 160 acres $ 3.500 00G. A. McCuaig 320 " 8.000 00E. C. Staveley 160 " 3.520 00J. Friedt, tenant 84 50G. A. McCuaig, crop damages 488 92H. Tracey, crop damages 488 92Total 640 acres $16,082 34For railway siding Name Acreage AmountCredit Foncier Franco- Canadien 5-11 acres $ 250 00Wevburn Security Co. Ltd 0-33 " 25 00Total 5-44 acres $ 275 00Re airport at Halbrite Name Acreage AmountE. Rubin 380 acres $ 7,500 004. (a) S3,505.97; (b) $67,266.37; (c) $22,962.79.

Questions

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INTERIM INTERNATIONAL WHEAT AGREEMENT

PC

Mr. ROSS (Souris):

Progressive Conservative

1. When was the interim international wheat agreement concluded?

2. When and where was the last international conference on wheat held?

3. By whom was Canada represented?

4. What countries sent representatives to the conference?

5. What were the purposes of the conference, and what subjects were on the agenda?

6. Upon what subjects, if any, was agreement achieved?

7. Upon what subjects was it impossible to achieve agreement?

8. What was the attitude of.Canada on each of these subjects?

9. What nations took an attitude on any of these subjects, differing from the Canadian attitude, and what was the attitude of each such nation on each such subject?

10. By what nations has the agreement been broken, and in what particulars has it been so broken ?

11. When will the next international conference on wheat be held, and by whom will Canada be represented?

Mr. ST. LAURENT:

1. A memorandum of agreement between the Argentine, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States of America to which a draft convention was attached, took effect on June 27, 1942.

2. The International Wheat Council met in London on August 31 and September 1, 1945.

3. R. V. Biddulph, European commissioner of the Canadian wheat board.

4. Argentina, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and the United States of America.

5. 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10. It has been agreed by the participating governments that the discussions in council are secret. Any disclosure by Canada of the information requested, without the concurrence of the other governments, would be a breach of confidence.

11. The next meeting of the council will be in January, 1946, unless a meeting is convened earlier. Canada's representative has not yet been appointed.

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FAMILY ALLOWANCES

October 11, 1945