April 5, 1945

NAT

Percy Chapman Black

National Government

Mr. BLACK (Cumberland):

I should like to have a statement from the minister as to the cost of property, the cost of improvements, the cost of buildings and construction and the cost of equipment at Deep Brook, Sydney and Esquimalt. Also if the minister has not already made a statement, I should like to know what progress is being made in the construction of tribal class boats at Halifax. I should like to know how manyof these boats are in service, or when it is [DOT]expected they will be completed and be inactual service. Is it intended to extend the

original programme?

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

I

cannot give my hon. friend all t'he answers, but I can give him some figures with regard to Deep Brook. The estimated main contract cost was $8,663,000 in round figures and there has been expended to date by the Dominion Construction company on construction work, $8,645,000. A total of $57,000 was paid out for the purchase of land. Then there were other things such as power supply, pipelines and railway sidings, which brings the total expenditure to date to $8,893,000.

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NAT

Percy Chapman Black

National Government

Mr. BLACK (Cumberland):

Does that include equipment?

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

All I have here are the capital charges but I can get the equipment separately later on. This will disappoint some people because they predicted that it would cost a great deal more than that. So far as expenditures on land and buildings and other capital items are concerned, they have been within the estimate.

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NAT

Percy Chapman Black

National Government

Mr. BLACK (Cumberland):

The minister has not given the cost of the equipment.

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

I

have not and I cannot give that. I told my hon. friend I would get it for him.

[Mr. A. L. Macdonald.}

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NAT

Percy Chapman Black

National Government

Mr. BLACK (Cumberland):

That is perfectly satisfactory. I do not wish to annoy the minister but I should like to have it clear.

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

I

understand my hon. friend perfectly. I told him that I did not have anything but the capital cost, but I will get the other details either to-night or to-morrow.

As to Sydney, capital costs of all kinds, including land, buildings, wharves, dredging, oil storage, roads, marine railway, storage buildings, sprinkler system, telephone system and so forth amounted as of February 28 of this year to $10,698,000, as I make it out from these figures, and I think that is right. That is against an estimated cost of $11,218,000, so that we have been able to get along with a little less than the estimate. Again I have not anything beyond the capital cost. I will get the other details to-morrow.

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NAT

Percy Chapman Black

National Government

Mr. BLACK (Cumberland):

Does that

complete it, or is there some other work projected?

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

There might be some small odds and ends still to be done, but that can be taken as the virtual completion of the contract. I will find out exactly what remains to be done.

I am afraid I have no figures for Esquimalt. There was a considerable naval development there before the war, but we have added to it since the war. I can find out just what our costs have been.

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LIB

Vincent-Joseph Pottier

Liberal

Mr. POTTIER:

What has been, the expenditure at Shelburne?

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

I

have not that before me but I will get it.

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

The figures given to the hon. member for Cumberland with respect to Sydney had to do with the Point Edward job, where a pier was destroyed before completed, was it not?

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

The one that was destroyed by fire?

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

Yes.

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Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

I

think it was pretty well completed.

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

Was it rebuilt?

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

Yes.

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

And the cost of rebuilding

is included in the figures given by the minister?

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LIB

Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

I have not looked into that. I do not know whether there was any insurance. I suppose there was, probably held by the contractor.

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April 5, 1945