March 29, 1945

LIB

James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. J. L. ILSLEY (Minister of Finance):

I will bring the request to the attention of the wartime prices and trade board, but I know from the correspondence that passes through my office that the demand for pumps far exceeds the supply, and the equitable allocation of the available supply of pilmps is a very difficult matter to arrange satisfactorily. For instance, I was just reading in- the office last night or this morning a bitter complaint from the owner of a triplex house, in which there were families comprising fifteen children, who was unable to get a second pump for the property, although it was badly needed-because, as he put it, farmers were given the preference in the allocation of pumps. In other words, he said, the government puts the

interests of cattle above the interests of children. I just cite that instance to show how difficult it is to distribute pumps in a way that will be satisfactory to all those who require them.

Topic:   FARM PUMPS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY WITH RESPECT TO INCREASED QUOTA
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POWELL RIVER WHARF

FACILITIES FOR LOCAL SHIPPING


On the orders of the day:


LIB

George Alexander Cruickshank

Liberal

Mr. G. A. CRUICKSHANK (Fraser Valley):

I should like to ask the Minister of Fisheries or the acting minister whether any request has been received from the fishermen of Powell River for suitable docking facilities. This is very important to them.

Topic:   POWELL RIVER WHARF
Subtopic:   FACILITIES FOR LOCAL SHIPPING
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Reconstruction; Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal

Hon. C. D. HOWE (Minister of Munitions and Supply):

As the Minister of Fisheries

is not in his seat at the moment perhaps the question can stand as a notice, to be answered at the next sitting.

The house in committee of supply, Mr. Bradette in the chair.

Topic:   POWELL RIVER WHARF
Subtopic:   FACILITIES FOR LOCAL SHIPPING
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DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES


Indian Affairs branch- Jibe. Indian hospitals and general care of Indians-further amount required, $240,000.


CCF

William Scottie Bryce

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. BRYCE:

Before adjournment last night I was trying to get certain information from the minister which I failed to receive, but to-day it has been supplied by his department, so that is quite satisfactory.

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES
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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

Some time ago I saw a report that the minister was going to appoint a commission to look into the incidence of tuberculosis among the Indians. Has that commission been appointed, and if so, who are its members?

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Hon. T. A. CRERAR (Minister of Mines and Resources):

I think my hon. friend must be under some misapprehension in thinking that there was any proposal to establish a special commission to investigate the incidence of tuberculosis among the Indians. Last summer special investigations were carried on among the Indians in the northwest territories and the Mackenzie river country, from the point of view not only of health but also of education. Possibly that is what my hon. friend has in mind.

Tuberculosis among the Indians is under constant review. The department has the advantage of the experience of the health departments of each of the provinces; I think I am correct in saying that almost every province has one or more special institutions for

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the treatment of tuberculosis, and many Indians are treated in these institutions. In addition several sanatoria have been started by the department especially for the treatment of Indians afflicted with tuberculosis, and that programme is being extended. Ten years ago there was no special attention given by the department to tuberculosis among the Indians, but during the present fiscal year something like S700,000 has been spent on this particular phase of Indian health. It is the programme of the department to expand that work steadily. Tuberculosis among the Indians affects not only the Indians themselves but has a vital bearing on the health of the white population.

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES
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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

I must accept the minister's explanation, but I was under the definite impression that I heard over the radio or read in the press of the appointment of such a commission. If there has been no such appointment, the matter can be discussed at some other time. Two or three years ago I drew the minister's attention to tuberculosis among the Indians, and I am glad that investigations have taken place to the extent that he has indicated.

There is one other matter I wish to bring up, and if it has already been rectified, a simple affirmation to that effect will be quite satisfactory. I bad word from the secretary of the British Columbia hospital association that certain hospitals on Vancouver Island, the Port Alberni hospital, the hospital at Duncan and the hospital at Nanaimo, had notified the Department of Indian Affairs that they would accept no more Indian patients unless the department paid the standard per diem rate asked for. The department paid it in the case of these three hospitals, but St. Joseph's hospital at Comox made a similar request, which was refused. Why was the request refused in connection with one hospital when it was granted in connection with the other three? Or perhaps the request has been granted as far as St. Joseph's hospital is concerned.

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I am afraid I am unable to give a specific reply to the question asked. My recollection at the moment is that the rates have been increased in a good many hospitals, if not in all. There are factors of operating cost to be considered. A hospital may be located at a point where the costs of operation are higher than those of a hospital located at another point. Several Indian hospitals are administered by the department, and one of these is located in British Columbia about sixty miles east of Vancouver. Our officials think that through the operation of these

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hospitals they get a reasonable check on operating costs. The increase we are asking in this supplementary vote is accounted for to a considerable degree-just how much I cannot say -by the fact that rates of payment have increased.

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES
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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

Would the minister at some time give me in writing a detailed answer to my question?

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

If my hon. friend will give me in writing details of the information he wants, I will see that the department supplies the answers if it is possible to do so.

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES
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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

I rather think they will be in Hansard, but I shall give them to the minister.

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF MINES AND RESOURCES
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Item agreed to.


DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND WELFARE


Health branch-[DOT] H7. Combating venereal diseases; administration-further amount required, $90,250.


CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

Could we hear just what the situation is with regard to this particular scourge and what steps are being taken to educate the people?

Topic:   DEPARTMENT OF NATIONAL HEALTH AND WELFARE
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March 29, 1945