March 24, 1944

LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

I do not thick it need be mentioned. The only unexpended balance in the 810,000,000 affects Manitoba, and it does not affect any other province. The amendment stipulates that power shall be given to spend that money.

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SC

Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

I think

we should know how much of this 810,000,000 was spent, and how much we are still to appropriate.

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NAT

Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

The minister has told us.

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

When we were in the

resolution stage the hon. member for Yale asked the same question.

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NAT

Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

No, not the same.

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

He asked a somewhat

similar question, and at that time I volunteered to put the complete data on record. I could read it, but it would take fifteen minutes to do so. However, if the hon. member just wishes to know the unexpended balance for Manitoba, I can say to him that it is $147,430.42.

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

I think even if it takes ten minutes for the minister to read it, it should be read,

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh.

Technical Education Act

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

Some of those smart fellows who know all about it-and who perhaps do not actually know any more about it than we do-laugh at that suggestion. Personally, I should like to know if my figuring of the problem is correct. Twenty-five years ago the federal government passed an act in which it made $10,000,000 available. That was for the development of technical education in this country. Most of my hon. friends must accept their share of responsibility for the administration of that act. Well, there is no wonder technical education has been neglected, because we find that Manitoba did not use

even the small portion made available to her. I say that before this amendment is accepted, and we give effect to the same old act-one which certainly did not serve a very useful purpose in the past-the committee should take at least ten minutes, and listen to the Minister of Labour tell most members something they know very little about-although they are not big enough to admit it. I should like to hear the minister put the whole thing on record.

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

If the house wishes, I am prepared to put it on the record. It is as follows:

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TECHNICAL EDUCATION ACT


Statement showing disposition of funds under the Technical Education Act as at the end of November, 1943 Prince Edward Island Nova Scotia New Brunswick Quebec Ontario Manitoba Saskatchewan Alberta British Columbia____ Amount available during period of act $ 198,187 86 662,113 94 512,461 28 2,569,655 53 3,178,608 97 719,746 56 847,620 91 678,524 40 633,080 55



Amounts paid by federal government as at Nov. 30,1943



Balance 147,430 42



The following table indicates the amount of money paid to the various provinces during the ten-year period of the Act: Summary of Amounts Available and Amounts Paid to Provinces, 1919 to 1929, Under Technical Education Act, 1919 Amounts available to prov- Grants paid Province inces during to provinces, 1919-20 1920-21 1921-22 1922-23 1923-24 period of act ten years P.E.I. .. .$ 198,187 86 $ 71,665 79 $ ... $ 2,700 65 $ 7,241 73 $ 5,858 46 $ 6,550 56N.S . 662,113 94 299,046 05 24,193 32 32,758 01 33,166 00 35,501 95N.B. ... . 512,461 28 405,692 68 3,396 66 10,408 73 22,160 70 17,476 06 20,382 00Que . 2,569,655 53 2,444,353 18 36,500 00 167,886 85 114,651 04 128,182 27 328,682 25Ont . 3,178,608 97 3,178,608 97 106,297 63 294,111 73 378,174 84 314,206 97 347,636 30Man. ... . 719,746 56 191,406 49 2,648 49 7,268 00 21,173 94 25,121 14 20,092 49Sask. ... . 847,620 91 152,565 92 1,142 00 3,534 28 13,665 50 18,263 84 18,397 18Alta. ... . 678,524 40 656,744 58 17,107 90 41,438 01 82,606 18 71,019 91 57,613 63B.C . 633,080 55 564,516 82 19,407 81 29,133 86 47,904 04 34,932 38 53,535 26Totals. .$10,000,000 00 $7,964,600 48 $186,500 49 $580,675 43 $720,336 07 $648,227 03 $888,391 62Province 1924-25 1925-26 1926-27 1927-28 1928-29 P. E. Island ... $ 1,950 76 $ 7,254 66 $ 7,757 33 $ 11,981 85 $ 20,369 79Nova Scotia 34,623 67 30,999 96 31.494 87 29,224 77 47,083 50New Brunswick .... 43,040 51 93,874 50 76,208 59 70,107 03 48,637 81Quebec 263.399 70 299,143 78 403,944 35 329,072 14 372,890 80Ontario 347,636 30 347,636 30 347,636 30 347,636 30 347,636 30Manitoba 19,500 37 19,488 77 20.056 34 27,529 51 28,527 44Saskatchewan 17,249 37 20,083 89 18,021 83 17,048 13 25,159 90Alberta 62,215 61 72,731 78 85.789 16 74,000 10 92,222 30British Columbia ... 40,860 48 53,123 05 56,627 03 59,355 49 169,637 42Totals ... $ 830,476 77 $ 944,336 69 $1,047,535 80 $ 965,955 32 $1,152,165 26 [Mr. GiUis.1MARCH 24, 1944 Technical Education Act As will be noted from the foregoing table, the total payments from the Technical Education fund to the provinces during the ten-year period amounted to $7,964,600.48, leaving a balance of $2,035,399.00 remaining unexpended, which amount was carried forward by the extension act of 1929 and made available for a period of five years among the provinces which had not received their entire allotment. During this five-year extension period the following provinces exhausted their respective allotments: Prince Edward Island, New Brunswick, Quebec, Alberta and British Columbia, leaving still three provinces with balances to their credit, namely, Nova Scotia, Manitoba and Saskatchewan. The following statement sets out a summary of the amounts available at the 1st April, 1929, by provinces, and the grants to the eight provinces during the five-year period by fiscal years. Summary of Amounts Available and Amounts Paid to Provinces under 1929 Extension to Technical Education Act of 1919 (to March 31, 1934) Amounts Grants paid available to provinces to Paid in Paid in Paid in Paid in Paid inProvince to provinces Mar. 31, 1934, 1929-34 under extension 1929-30 1930-31 1931-32 1932-33 1933-34P.E.I. .. .$ 126,522 07 $ 126,522 07 $ 22,117 30 $ 30,790 34 $ 31,898 89 $ 29,370 71 $ 12,344 83N.S . 363,067 89 242,214 89 21,525 08 73,669 61 48,699 87 50,628 81 47,691 52N.B. ... . 106,768 60 125,302 35 106,768 60 125,302 35 176,884 81 51,951 21 125,302 35 41,541 51 50,025 71 4,791 68 Man. ... . 528,340 07 38,621 44 27,488 24 46,169 12 23,064 50Sask. . . . . 695,054 99 550,428 89 60,505 89 198,289 95 170,094 89 75,567 61 45,970 55Alta. ... . 21,779 82 21,779 82 21,779 82 B.C . 68,563 73 68,563 73 68,563 73 Totals. .$ 2,035,399 52 $1,418,465 16 $413,286 89 $391,397 05 $282,973 57 $201,736 25 $129,071 40 The following recapitulation shows the disposition of funds during the fifteen-year period, ending March 31, 1934. It will be noted from this statement that the total payments to the provinces during the fifteen-year period amounted to $9,383,065.64, leaving a balance of $616,934.36. As there still remained available to the provinces of Nova Scotia, Manitoba and Saskatchewan $616,934.36 and as these provinces were anxious to avail themselves of these benefits a bill to extend the life of the act for a further five years from April 1, 1934, was introduced and passed by parliament. (Chap. 9, 24-25 Geo. V). Amounts Amounts available during 15-year period ending March 31,1934 paid during 15-year period to March 31,1934 Balance $ 198.187 86 $ 198,187 86 541,260 94 Nova Scotia $120,853 00 512.461 28 512,461 28 2,569,655 53 3,178.608 97 368,291 30 2.569.655 53 3,178,608 97 Manitoba 351,455 26Saskatchewan 847,620 91 702.994 81 144,626 10 678.524 40 678,524 40 633,080 55 633,080 55 ' $10,000,000 00 $9,383,065 64 $616,934 36 The next statement shows by provinces the amounts available on the 1st April, 1934, and the amounts paid up to March 31, 1939. Summary of Amounts Available and Amounts Paid to Provinces Under 1934 Extension to Technical Education Act of 1919 Province Nova Scotia Manitoba .. Saskatchewan Amounts available to provinces 1934-39



Grants paid to provinces to March 31, 1939, under extension $120,853 00 76,232 13 144,626 10 $341,711 23 Paid in 1934-35



Paid in 1935-36



Paid in 1936-37



Paid in Paid in 1937-38 1938-39



Technical Education Act


March 24, 1944