March 23, 1944

BANKING AND COMMERCE

CONCURRENCE IN FIRST AND SECOND REPORTS

LIB

William Henry Moore

Liberal

Mr. W. H. MOORE (Ontario) moved:

That the first report of the standing committee on banking and commerce presented to the house on Tuesday, March 21, he concurred in.

Topic:   BANKING AND COMMERCE
Subtopic:   CONCURRENCE IN FIRST AND SECOND REPORTS
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Motion agreed to. That the second report of the standing committee on banking and commerce presented to the house on Tuesday, March 21, be concurred in. Motion agreed to.


QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


PENSIONS-OLD AGE AND BLIND-FILING OF LIENS

CCF

Mr. KNOWLES: (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

1. In what provinces are liens filed against the property of old age and blind pensioners?

'\Ir. Howe.]

2. Is the filing of such liens the subject of any arrangement or agreement between the provinces and federal government?

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Subtopic:   PENSIONS-OLD AGE AND BLIND-FILING OF LIENS
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LIB

Mr. ABBOTT: (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

1. The provinces of Prince Edward Island, Quebec, Ontario, Manitoba and Saskatchewan have the power to control property owned by old age pensioners and blind pensioners under the authority of provincial legislation. At the time of the last dominion examination of the provincial pension accounts, these provinces appeared to be following the general practice of filing liens or registration notices as authorized by their legislation.

2. There is no agreement and no regulation regarding the filing of such liens, other than the general agreement of each pension authority to administer pensions in accordance with the act and the regulations. Subsection 3 of section 9 of the Old Age Pensions Act provides as follows:

A pension authority shall be entitled to recover out of the estate of any deceased pensioner, as a debt due by the pensioner to such authority, the sum of the pension payments made to such pensioner from time to time, together with interest at the rate of five per cent per annum, compounded annually, but no claim shall be made by a pension authority for the recovery of such debt directly or indirectly out of any part of the pensioner's estate which passes by will or on an intestacy to any other pensioner or to any person who has, since the grant of such pension or for the last three years during which such pension has continued to be paid, regularly contributed to the support of the pensioner by the payment of money or otherwise to an extent which, having regard to the means of the person so having contributed, is considered by the pension authority to be reasonable.

There has been some legal doubt as to whether this clause was mandatory or permissive in its effect. For some time the dominion has followed the legal opinion that the section indicated an intention on the part of parliament that recoveries should be made and that as a matter of sound administration, it should be regarded as a statutory direction to the pension authorities to make recoveries in the ordinary course. More recently we have been advised that while the drafting may leave some legal doubt, nevertheless the subsection is, strictly speaking, permissive. The provincial pension authorities have, as indicated in the answer to question 1, followed different policies, some have refused to follow the administrative requirement of making claims against the estates of deceased pensioners, others have suggested that it might be desirable either to discontinue making claims in all cases or to limit claims to the larger estates. In view of this situation, the provincial pension authorities are being

Questions

advised that whether or not recovery should be made from estates where the net value does not exceed two thousand dollars will be left entirely to their discretion.

Topic:   QUESTIONS
Subtopic:   PENSIONS-OLD AGE AND BLIND-FILING OF LIENS
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INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE UNION

SC

Mr. QUELCH:

Social Credit

1. What are the names of the Canadian officials who drafted the proposals for an international exchange union?

2. What were the terms of reference under which these proposals were drafted?

3. Have these proposals been endorsed by,

(a) the Department of Finance; (b) the government of Canada; (c) any other body?

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Subtopic:   INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE UNION
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LIB

Mr. ABBOTT: (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

1. The following officials of the Department of Finance, Department of External Affairs, the Bank of Canada and foreign exchange control board took part in the drafting of the "Tentative draft proposals of Canadian experts for an international exchange union":

R. B. Bryce, W. C. Clark, J. J. Deutsch.W.A. Mackintosh, L. Rasminsky, N. A. Robertson, G. F. Towers.

2 and 3. The proposals were drafted to serve as a basis for the comments and suggestions to be made in regard to the American and British currency proposals by the Canadian experts who were to attend the discussions on this subject in Washington. Several of these Canadian officials participated in these discussions as a result of an invitation which the Minister of Finance, as he explained to the house on July 12 last year, had received from the Secretary of the United States Treasury to send technical experts to Washington for an informal discussion of the proposals for an international stabilization fund prepared by officials in the United States treasury. Those who took part in the drafting of the "tentative draft proposals" did not receive any instructions or terms of reference, as it was definitely understood that the experts in discussing this question, were to do so solely on their own responsibility with a view to exploring the possibility of reaching agreements on proposals that could be recommended to governments in order to solve the problem of post-war monetary instability.

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Subtopic:   INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE UNION
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CANADIAN PACIFIC AIR LINES-AIR ROUTES INTO UNITED STATES

CCF

Mr. KNOWLES: (Whip of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation)

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

1. Has the government been advised of any applications made by Canadian Pacific Air Lines to the United States government or any department or branch thereof dated since January 1, 1943, for permission to operate civil air routes into the United States (including Alaska)?

2. If so, when was the government so advised, and what routes have been named in such applications?

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Subtopic:   CANADIAN PACIFIC AIR LINES-AIR ROUTES INTO UNITED STATES
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LIB

Mr. CHEVRIER: (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Munitions and Supply)

Liberal

1. Neither the Departmet of Transport nor the board of transport commissioners has received advice of any such applications.

2. See answer to No. 1.

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Subtopic:   CANADIAN PACIFIC AIR LINES-AIR ROUTES INTO UNITED STATES
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TORONTO-PORT . DALHOUSIE STEAMSHIP SERVICE

NAT

Mr. CHURCH:

National Government

1. Will the government railways operate a steamboat passenger service during the coming season of transportation between Toronto and Port Dalhousie? If so, with what steamers?

2. Will an improved type of steamer be provided this year for passenger and freight, and an improved service be given?

3. Will reduced fares be considered for holidays and weekends?

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Subtopic:   TORONTO-PORT . DALHOUSIE STEAMSHIP SERVICE
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LIB

Mr. MICHAUD: (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

1. The Canadian National Railways proposes to operate its Toronto-Port Dalhousie freight and passenger service again this year during the period of navigation with the steamers Northumberland and Dalhousie City.

2. The same steamers will be operated as last year, on approximately the same schedules.

3. The same fares will be in effect for holidays and week-ends as effective last year.

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Subtopic:   TORONTO-PORT . DALHOUSIE STEAMSHIP SERVICE
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INDIANS-TRUST FUNDS

CCF

Mr. MacINNIS:

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

1. What is the Indian population of Canada, in, (a) each province; (b) Northwest Territories; (c) the Yukon?

2. What is the total amount of money held in trust for the benefit of Indians by the Department of Indian Affairs?

3. Is the trust fund apportioned so much to each province?

4. If so, what amount is allocated to each province?

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Subtopic:   INDIANS-TRUST FUNDS
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March 23, 1944