March 13, 1944

QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


WHEAT BOARD-BROKERAGE AND OTHER FEES

NAT

Ernest Edward Perley

National Government

Mr. PERLEY:

How much in brokerage fees, commission or any other fees was paid by the Canadian wheat board to the following export firms since August 1, 1943: Alberta Pacific Grain Company Limited, Bunge North American Grain Corporation (Canadian Agency Limited), Cargill Grain - Company Limited, Continental Grain Company Limited, Laval and Company Incorporated, McCabe * Brothers Grain Company Limited, Searle Grain Company Limited, K. B. Stoddart & Company Limited?

Mr. MneKINNON (Edmonton West): Mr. Speaker, I have had a word with the hon. member for Qu'Appeile regarding this question. The same type of question was before the standing committee on agriculture and colonization during the 1942 session. The committee had before it a motion by the hon. member for Lake Centre, I believe, as follows:

That the board do produce to this committee a complete record of all brokerage fees of all kinds, and commissions paid since the outbreak of war, the persons or corporations to whom such payments were made; the amounts paid to each, and the particulars of service rendered therefore respectively by each of the said persons or corporations.

This motion called for all brokerage and all commissions and fees paid by the board to individual companies or persons; and the question the member for Qu'Appelle is now asking calls for the same information for a selected list of companies. When the motion to which I have just referred was before the committee on agriculture and colonization, the chief commissioner of the Canadian wheat board stated that the disclosure of such information by individual companies would be capable of misinterpretation, and in any event would be inimical to the board's future operations. The committee therefore decided that it would not accept responsibility for the disclosure of this detailed information. I might add that the Canadian wheat board properly discloses in its annual reports the total amounts of brokerage and carrying charges paid. It is the detailed disclosure by individual companies which would be inimical to the board's operations with these companies, and to which exception is being taken.

I am now advised that the annual report of the Canadian wheat board for the 1942-43 crop year is expected to be ready by about the end of this month.

I would suggest that the question be dropped.

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LIB
NAT

Ernest Edward Perley

National Government

Mr. PERLEY:

I cannot agree to drop the question. The minister gives as a reason that last year a question in reference to brokerage was turned down by the agriculture committee, but that does not apply to a question which is asked in this house. Surely the house has more power than the committee had. I do n-ot see that such information could be misinterpreted or that it would do anyone any harm. On February 9 I asked the minister a question in regard to the sale of grain, and at that time he said that at a very early day he hoped to be able to give the house a statement. He made that statement on February 14, and in it he gave a list of fifteen firms who were doing this export business. Following that I asked for information in regard to some of these firms, and the minister replied-

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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NAT

Ernest Edward Perley

National Government

Mr. PERLEY:

I think I am quite in order in replying to the statement made by the minister. At the time in question he said it was not possible to separate these amounts, which I said I did not think was a fair statement. Then I had a conference with the minister, during which he read from some notes he had received from the wheat board objecting to this information being given. I took exception to that stand, and said it was not right at all. There is nothing about this that could be misrepresented or wrongfully used in any way. The minister himself put on record the names of these export firms, and I am asking what fees they have been paid since August 1 of last year. I think this house is entitled to the information.

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LIB

Thomas Vien (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I have stated that the

minister has answered question No. 9 as it appears on the order paper. It will be considered as answered,

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NAT

Ernest Edward Perley

National Government

Mr. PERLEY:

Then I will place it on the order paper again and ask for the information in regard to all the firms.

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USE BY FARMERS OF TRUCKS FOR TRANSPORTATION

PC

Mr. DIEFENBAKER:

Progressive Conservative

1. How many prosecutions, by provinces, have taken place against fanners for the use of their trucks for personal transportation purposes?

2. What have been the maximum and minimum penalties imposed?

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LIB

Mr. ABBOTT: (Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Finance)

Liberal

1. There have been no prosecutions of farmers for using their trucks "for personal transportation purposes"; but the following numbers of farmers were prosecuted for offences in-

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volving the use of trucks for the purpose of transporting passengers and for other uses held by the courts to be wasteful or unnecessary: N,ova Scotia 2, Ontario 1, Manitoba 1, Saskatchewan 31, Alberta 1.

2. Penalties imposed, maximum $25 and court costs, minimum $2 and court costs.

flax-1942 CROP

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CCF

Mr. BURTON:

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

1. How many bushels of each grade of flax did the farmers market of the 1942 crop, and to what board or agency?

2. What was the price paid to the producer at Fort William or Port Arthur on each grade?

3. How many bushels of each grade of flax were sold to the Canadian crushers of the 1942 crop, and at what price?

4. How many bushels of each grade of Canadian flax of the 1942 crop were marketed in the United States, at what price, and was this f.o.b. Fort William and Port Arthur?

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LIB

Mr. MacKINNON (Edmonton West): (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

1. All flax of the 1942 crop was marketed through the Canadian Wheat Board. Deliveries by producers, by grades, were as follows:

Western Division Basis Fort William/Port Arthur

Grade Bushels Price per bushelNo. 1 C.W. Flax 8,811,253-39 $2 25No. 2 C.W. Flax 1,419,844-08 2 21No. 3 C.W. Flax 425,834-36 2 10No. 4 C.W. Flax 56,694-51 2 05Tf. 1 C.W. Flax 294,394-26 2 17Tf. 2 C.W. Flax 124,416-30 2 13Tf. 3 C.W. Flax 42,057-18 2 02Tf. 4 C.W. Flax 3,482-20 1 97Damp 1 C.W. Flax 2,869-43 2 11Damp 2 C.W. Flax 2,66S-17 2 07Damp 3 C.W. Flax 3,475-35 1 96Damp 4 C.W. Flax 622-05 1 91Sample Heated 1,797-48 1 85Tf. Sample Heated 673-47 1 SOTf. Sample Heated and Heating 525-24 1 75Tf. Heating 3 C.W. Flax 1,18S-51 1 90Tf. Heating 4 C.W. Flax 70-22 1 85Damp Sample Heated and Heating 35-09 1 70Damp Sample Heated. 62-28 1 75Sample Lady's Thumb. 5,980-13 1 90Sample False Flax 31-00 1 90Damp Sample Lady's Thumb 26-35 1 SOFlax-broken grain 436-08 1 75Sample Flax Mild 20-00 1 80Tf. Heated 3 C.W. Flax 20-46 1 9011,198,482-43

Eastern Division Basis Montreal

Grade Bushels Price per bushelNo. 1 C.E. Flax 33,600-32 $2 25No. 2 C.E. Flax 20,480-24 2 21No. 3 C.E. Flax 23,299-23 2 10No. 4 C.E. Flax 6,053-22 2 05Tf. 1 C.E. Flax 5,796-44 2 17Tf. 2 C.E. Flax 10,037-29 2 13Tf. 3 C.E. Flax 5,132-11 2 02Tf. 4 C.E. Flax 12,033-12 1 97Damp 1 C.E. Flax 286-38 2 11Damp 2 C.E. Flax 207-24 2 07Damp 3 C.E. Flax 203-00 1 96Damp 4 C.E. Flax 931-47 1 91Sample C.E. Flax 2,142-53 1 85Tf. Sample C.E. Flax.. 240-04 1 77

120,445-27

2. Prices shown above basis Fort William/ Port Arthur, or Montreal.

3. Western Division

Sales to Canadian Crushers to January 31, 1944

Basis No. 1 C.W. Flax $1.64

Grade Bushels PriceNo. 1 C.W. Flax 3,987,569-25 $1 64No. 2 C.W. Flax 67,502-04 1 60No. 3 C.W. Flax 31,259-29 1 49No. 4 C.W. Flax 974-44 1 44Tf. 1 C.W. Flax 9,845-42 1 56Tf. 2 C.W. Flax 11,116-12 1 52Tf. 3 C.W. Flax 218-24 1 41Tf. 4 C.W. Flax 227-19 1 36Damp 1 C.W. Flax 317-21 1 50Damp 2 C.W. Flax 155-55 1 46Damp 4 C.W. Flax 6-51 1 30Sample Heated 7,250-24 1 24Tf Sample Heated 6-00 1 19Tf. Heating 4 C.W. Flax 70-22 1 24Damp Sample Heated and Heating 35-09 1 09Sample Lady's Thumb. 1,937-14 1 29Damp Sample Lady's Thumb 26-35 1 19Damp Sample Heated.. 5-00 1 144,118,524-38

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Eastern Division

Sales to Canadian Crushers to January 31, 1944

Grade

No. 1 C.E. Flax

No. 2 C.E. Flax

No. 3 C.E. Flax

No. 4 C.E. Flax

Tf. 1 C.E. Flax...

Tf. 2 C.E. Flax

Tf. 3 C.E. Flax..

Tf. 4 C.E. Flax

Damp 1 C.E. Flax....

Damp 2 C.E. Flax....

Damp 3 C.E. Flax....

Damp 4 C.E. Flax....

Sample CJE. Flax....

Tf. Sample C.E. Flax..

Basis No. 1 C.E. Flax $1.64

Bushels Price 33,600-32 $1 6420,480-24 1 6023,299-23 1 496,053-22 1 445,796-44 1 5610,037-29 1 525,132-11 1 4112,033-12 1 36286-38 1 50207-24 1 46203-00 1 35931-47 1 302,142-53 1 24240-04 1 16

120,445-27

4. Flax sold for export to the United States is ^confined to No. 1 C.W. Flax, of which 6,253,944-31 bushels were sold for export basis Fort William/Port Arthur in store values at an average price of S2-591934 per bushel.

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PRICE OF EXPORT WHEAT

NAT
LIB

Mr. MacKINNON (Edmonton West): (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

1. The basis is the differential between the values of wheat in Canada and the United States. The prices are issued daily to exporters and mills and are in force from 1:15 p.m. to 9:30 a.m. the following day, except on Saturdays when they are in force from 12:00 noon until 9:30 a.m. the following market day.

2. The wheat held by the Canadian wheat board for the account of his majesty under order in council P.C. 7942 of October 'l2, 1943 must be made available to fill domestic requirements and to provide wheat under the war appropriations (United Nations Mutual Aid) Act.^ The price at which this wheat is made available is fixed from time to time by the governor in council. See paragraph 7 of order in council P.C. 7942 of October 12, 1943. The price from September 28, 1943 to date has been SI.25 per bushel, basis No. 1 northern, Fort William/Port Arthur.

{Mr. J. A. MacKinnon.]

3. For countries included under the United Nations Mutual Aid Act, the basis is the same as for the United Kingdom (No. 2 above). For all other countries, the basis is the same as for the United States (No. 1 above).

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EMPLOYMENT OF PRISONERS OF WAR

PC

Mr. DIEFENBAKER:

Progressive Conservative

1. How many prisoners of war are now employed, (a) on all projects; (b) in agriculture;

(c) in pulpwood?

2. What are the numbers by nationality?

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March 13, 1944