June 28, 1943

LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

He has never been in charge of district No. 12.

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

I asked whether he was an official of the district depot.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

He has never been in charge. He is appointed by the military authorities to appear before the board in the interests of the defence department.

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

Was a similar representative of agriculture chosen to look after the interests of that industry? Could I have the name of that man?

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LIB
CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

Did he take the place of Mr. Milliken. who was appointed last January?

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LIB
CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

Mr. Milliken was an agricultural representative. He tried the job for two or three weeks and then gave up in desperation, because he had so many cases that he just could not handle them. I should like to know whether Mr. Milliken at the time of his resignation made any recommendations as to what should be done. His statement to the press was that it was such a terrific job he could not possibly handle it.

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

He was the legal representative of the pools out there? (

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CCF
LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

He found that in view of his legal practice it was not possible for him to continue in view of representations that farmers would make through legal counsel. In place of Mr. Milliken we appointed Mr. Dawson who, I understand, is giving satisfactory service.

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

The point I wish to make is this. A good many people, as soon as they heard that Mr. Milliken had been appointed, wrote to him to ask for a postponement. They received no reply, because almost right away Mr. Milliken resigned, and their letters apparently were lost. A good many cases came to my attention which had received no consideration at all. The next thing the applicant knew he was called up. Who preceded Mr. Milliken?

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

I do not know. It was not under my jurisdiction then.

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

One of the most discouraging aspects of the whole situation was that the Prime Minister had made an announcement in March, 1942, to the effect that from then, on those engaged in agriculture would pretty well be kept in agriculture, and the onus of proof, according to that statement of the Prime Minister and according to the order in council rested with the board. It was the board that had to prove the men were not essential to agriculture, but the difficulty seems to be that they did not have to prove it to anyone. I ask the minister, to whom did the board have to prove that a man was not essential to agriculture?

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LIB

Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. MITCHELL:

As my hon. friend understands, the board is like a court, presided over by a judge of the supreme court. The board is the final authority under the regulations and it determines whether or not a man is essential to agriculture. The board takes no direction from the minister. It is a free agent in interpreting the law and regulations.

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George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

But according to the order in council the board had to .prove that the man was not essential to agriculture. Apparently it did not have to prove it to any one. There was no other court to which it had to prove it. It had to satisfy only itself.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

The man had to prove to the board, which was headed) by a judge, that he was essential to agriculture.

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

That was prior to March, 1942.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

That was always the

case prior to 1942.

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CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

No; a change was made in 1942, and the onus of proof placed on the board.

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June 28, 1943