May 31, 1943

CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

Should we not have a quid pro quo in regard to that?

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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

We have been trying for

some time to have a quid pro quo in connection with prisoners of war.

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SC

Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

If a German prisoner receives a promotion do we have to increase his pay?

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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

By agreement, if the

agreement refers to the rank, the pay is increased.

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SC

Ernest George Hansell

Social Credit

Mr. HANSELL:

I do not think the matter of conscientious objectors and their internment has been cleared up entirely.

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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

Conscientious objectors

are one thing, and internment is another. We have been somewhat confused in the discussion. The hon. member for Calgary West (Mr. Edwards) was really discussing a matter which was outside the terms of this resolution entirely, while the hon. member for York South (Mr. Noseworthy) was discussing something which was within the terms of the resolution. He was discussing those who are interned, and that is part of this vote. I have no objection under the proper circumstances to discussing the matter of conscientious objectors, but I do not think this is the item under which it should be discussed.

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SC

Ernest George Hansell

Social Credit

Mr. HANSELL:

I should like to know just where I could bring in that discussion.

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LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE (Vancouver Centre):

Under the labour estimates.

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LIB

Joseph-Arthur Bradette (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

Shall the item carry? Some hon. MEMBERS: Carried.

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LIB

Joseph-Arthur Bradette (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

The next item is dependents' supplementary grants fund, $1,285,000.

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SC

Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

I believe this is the item under which we can discuss assistance given to wives who have been deserted by soldiers. I brought a case to the attention of the minister the other day, and he said he would review the matter and make a statement to the house.

War Appropriation-Army

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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

The chairman of the dependents' board of trustees tells me that the case submitted by my hon. friend is being examined. He is right in assuming that it can be discussed under this item.

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SC

Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

I took the matter up with the department separately, but I was wondering if there was a breakdown of this particular case.

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LIB
CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

I am interested in a matter similar to that brought up by the hon. member. The dependents' board of trustees is not permitted to grant an allowance unless the dependent is receiving pay and allowance. When a man goes absent without leave and is away for the period covered by the regulations, his dependent's allowance is cut off and, if it is a wife, she cannot receive any assistance from the dependents' board of trustees. I ask the minister to see that the functions of this board are extended so that they may give assistance to these women. There are many cases across Canada, and a sad situation is being created because this board cannot give assistance to women in this position.

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LIB
CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

That is as I understand it.

Progress reported.

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At eleven o'clock the house adjourned, without question put, pursuant to standing order. Tuesday, June 1, 1943


May 31, 1943