April 9, 1943

LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

That will be true in some cases.

Section 2 agreed to.

Wheat Acreage Redaction Act

On section 3-Payments on acreage reductions.

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Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weybum):

I notice that this includes rye and coarse grasses. Will the oil-producing crops which we were speaking about a while ago, sunflower seed and rape seed, be included? There is no provision in the act for them.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

They are not included in 1942, but they will be included in 1943. The amendment which appears in section 3 is to make possible payments under 1942 which we are not yet able to make. Section 4 deals with 1943 and covers everything, whether a man puts in turnips, or sugar beets, or anything.

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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

Does the minister intend to pay a bonus on the raising of turnips? Surely he is not serious.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

There are not very many grown.

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NAT

James Arthur Ross

National Government

Mr. ROSS (Souris):

If the land is taken out of wheat.

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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

It should be planted or sown to some useful crop which will serve the purpose of production of live stock, or oil seeds, or what-not. This gives, I suggest, a very wide power.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

It will be a very small acreage. It does cover sunflowers, but we do want sunflower oil; and it would cover turnips, which are a very good feed for live stock. As a matter of fact, however, there are very few of them grown in the west.

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PC

Mark Cecil Senn

Progressive Conservative

Mr. SENN:

Section 4 covers distinctly anything if the acreage is cultivated and sown to crop.

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Section agreed to. On section 4-Payments on acreage reductions.


SC

Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

The minister says that anything which is sown on such land would be considered all right. That would include mustard?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Yes, the kind of mustard about which my hon. friend was writing me some time ago. I would say, yes.

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SC

Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

I had a letter the other day with regard to the matter. This farmer wanted to know in order that he could make preparation for the spring, and I told him I would let him know.

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Section agreed to. On section 5-Sworn statement of claim by farmer.


CCF

George Hugh Castleden

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. CASTLEDEN:

Difficulties have arisen from the fact that farmers did not know the date on which they had to make their declarations and their applications, particularly in regard to the farm income bonus. In many cases these farmers do not have radios and they do not read their newspapers because they have not the time. I see that this section leaves it open for the date to be set by regulation. Unless the date is set a sufficiently long enough time prior to the provision going into force, some severe injustices may ensue.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

As the Wheat Acreage Reduction Act reads now, application must have been made before the 31st of May, 1942. It might have been in 1941 or 1942 under the regulations made in the previous act, but the first application must have been made before then. Then the sworn statement can be taken at any time after July 1. Until the sworn statement is made no payment is made. That provision is already in the act, but there is no provision in the 1942 act, and there was none in the regulations, to say that we could establish a date beyond which we would not receive any more applications. The result is that we are getting applications now, in 1943, in respect of claims for payment in 1941. We have to have a cut-off at some date; we cannot go on forever; and we want to be able to state at some time, "You must make your application before a certain date."

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James McCrie Douglas

Mr. DOUGLES (Weybum):

The date will be widely publicized?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Yes.

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Section agreed to. On section 6-Landlord's application.


LIB

Roy Theodore Graham

Liberal

Mr. GRAHAM:

I would urge on the minister the advisability of deleting that particular portion of section 6 which is comprised in the words, " on which shall be endorsed the tenant's acknowledgment that the applicant is his landlord." I think it will cause a great deal of unnecessary criticism of the application of the act to the landlord class. I noticed in the act itself that the definition of "landlord," as I expected, is:

... an owner of a farm operated by another person and includes a mortgagee or unpaid vendor who by contract or by law has a right to or a lien on or ownership in a part of the crop grown on a farm.

The tenant certainly does not want to determine any point of law by deciding

Wheat Acreage Reduction Act

whether a mortgagee is a landlord. I take it that in the tenant's application he is required to answer the ordinary question, "Who is your landlord?" I suggest that that is as far as the tenant should be expected to go and as far as the landlord should be required to go if the matter is not in dispute. If the matter of who is the landlord and who is entitled to the landlord's share becomes a question which must be settled, it has to go to a court of law, and is often a point of great difficulty. I could suggest to the minister the case of a landlord who might be a long way off, who could not get in touch with the tenant in order to obtain that particular acknowledgment by his tenant; and, if this section is not complied with, I take it that the landlord would be precluded from securing his proper share of the payment made under the provisions of this act. I can imagine, as the minister can, the landlord and the tenant having a row, and the tenant saying, "I won't sign anything," and there is nothing in the act which would compel him to do so. So that I submit to the minister that the act will cause less difficulty- I suggest it will cause him less trouble in answering complaints on the part of landlords -if he eliminates that provision completely from the section. I think it will be only a source of trouble and vexation. There would be nothing at law to permit the Prairie Farm Assistance Act branch to rely upon the statement of the tenant. Let the tenant in the application declare who is commonly known to be his landlord, and let the landlord make application for payment.

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April 9, 1943