March 4, 1943

NAT

Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GORDON GRAYDON (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, before the orders

of the day are called I should like to ask a question of the Minister of Labour. I have just received a letter from the national chairman of the association of technical employees, which is affiliated with the Trades and Labour Congress of Canada, to the effect that the national secretary of that association has been summarily dismissed without notice by a government corporation known as Research Enterprises Limited. The association regard this action as a clear case of union discrimination. I should like to ask that the minister investigate this matter at once.

Topic:   TIME REQUIRED FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS- PROCEDURE IN QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS
Subtopic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   DISMISSAL OF DOCTOR DAVID SHUGAR BY RESEARCH ENTERPRISES LIMITED
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Humphrey Mitchell (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Hon. HUMPHREY MITCHELL (Minister of Labour):

The leader of the opposition was good enough to advise me of his intention to ask this question, which has to do with the case of Doctor David Shugar. The complaint is, as stated, that he was dismissed for union activities. I received a report earlier in the week and immediately an industrial relations officer, as is customary in these cases, was dispatched to the company. I expect to have a report within the next few days, and I shall be glad to show it to my hon, friend.

Topic:   TIME REQUIRED FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS- PROCEDURE IN QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS
Subtopic:   LABOUR CONDITIONS
Sub-subtopic:   DISMISSAL OF DOCTOR DAVID SHUGAR BY RESEARCH ENTERPRISES LIMITED
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WAR REFUGEES


On the orders of the day:


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Thomas Miller Bell

Mr. M. J. COLD WELL (Rosetown-Biggar):

Has the government been consulted regarding the proposal of the United States to hold a conference in Ottawa to consider ways and means of alleviating the sufferings of refugees who fled or escaped from nazi and fascist persecution? Will the Prime Minister make

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a statement outlining Canada's opinion regarding this proposal, and the problem involved?

Topic:   TIME REQUIRED FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS- PROCEDURE IN QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS
Subtopic:   WAR REFUGEES
Sub-subtopic:   REFERENCE TO SUGGESTED CONFERENCE IN OTTAWA
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, I was advised that a question such as has been asked would be asked this afternoon either by my hon. friend or by some other member of his party. With that in mind I have prepared a reply, which I shall give to the house.

I have now seen the communication from the United States government to the United Kingdom government on the subject of a refugee conference, which was given to the press in Washington last night. A copy of this statement was shown to the Canadian Legation in Washington yesterday afternoon. I am informed that the document communicated by the United States Secretary of State to the British Ambassador in Washington on February 25 was in the form of a working memorandum, which in the ordinary course of events would not have been published without further communication with the governments which it concerned.

The United Kingdom government, which has taken the initiative in raising anew the question of what further measures might be taken in concert by the governments of the united nations to relieve the position of refugees from axis occupied territories, has been in communication with the Canadian government on this subject. The Canadian government has been giving consideration to a number of suggestions put forward by the United Kingdom government and will, in due course, be glad to examine any suggestions which the United States government may wish to put forward as a contribution to the alleviation of a grave and distressing problem.

Topic:   TIME REQUIRED FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS- PROCEDURE IN QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS
Subtopic:   WAR REFUGEES
Sub-subtopic:   REFERENCE TO SUGGESTED CONFERENCE IN OTTAWA
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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

There is an explanation I should like to make and supplement it with a slight apology. In replying to my hon. friend the leader of the Cooperative- Commonwealth Federation (Mr. Coldwell) I said that I was advised that a question such as had been asked would be asked this afternoon, and L thought it would be by one of his group. The hon. member who was kind enough to send me notice of his intention to ask the question was the hon. member for Vancouver South (Mr. Green). I should therefore like to see that he gets full credit for the reply that was made.

Topic:   TIME REQUIRED FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS- PROCEDURE IN QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS
Subtopic:   WAR REFUGEES
Sub-subtopic:   REFERENCE TO SUGGESTED CONFERENCE IN OTTAWA
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Thomas Miller Bell

Mr. COLDWELL:

For a moment I was afraid that the usual cooperation in our party had not been maintained.

Topic:   TIME REQUIRED FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS- PROCEDURE IN QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS
Subtopic:   WAR REFUGEES
Sub-subtopic:   REFERENCE TO SUGGESTED CONFERENCE IN OTTAWA
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PRIVILEGE-MR. BRUCE REFERENCE TO REMARKS OF PRIME MINISTER ON THE ORDERS OF THE DAT, MARCH 3


On the orders of the day:


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Herbert Alexander Bruce

National Government

Hon. H. A. BRUCE (Parkdale):

Mr. Speaker, when addressing a question yesterday to the Prime Minister I had not proceeded very far before I was interrupted by the Prime Minister. The ensuing noise prevented my hearing exactly what was said by him. I have now the text of his remarks, which will be found on page 918 of Hansard. He is reported as follows:

My hon. friend has given me no notice of this question. If he ivishes to advertise himself, all right,-

I submit that that is offensive language , and language which imputes a motive. This is dealt with in standing order 41, which reads as follows:

No member shall speak disrespectfully of His Majesty, nor of any of the royal family-

Topic:   PRIVILEGE-MR. BRUCE REFERENCE TO REMARKS OF PRIME MINISTER ON THE ORDERS OF THE DAT, MARCH 3
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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Oh, oh.

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Herbert Alexander Bruce

National Government

Mr. BRUCE:

I am just reading the complete text. Perhaps I had better skip down to the relevant passage, because it seems to be disturbing some of my hon. friends opposite. It reads:

-nor use offensive words against either house, or against any member thereof.

Paragraph 297 states that the imputation of bad motives against a member is contrary to the rules of this house. I would therefore ask the Prime Minister to withdraw his remarks.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE-MR. BRUCE REFERENCE TO REMARKS OF PRIME MINISTER ON THE ORDERS OF THE DAT, MARCH 3
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

Mr. Speaker, may I say

to the hon. member that when he rose yesterday I had very much in mind the fact that for some years he had represented His Majesty the King as his representative in the province of Ontario, and I was surprised that one who through a portion of his life had accustomed himself to the courtesies that go with such an office should have attempted to do what he was seeking to do yesterday. If I have offended the hon. member in any way I am sorry for that, and if I have used any language which is unparliamentary, I am quite prepared to withdraw it. I said just what came to my mind at the moment.

Topic:   PRIVILEGE-MR. BRUCE REFERENCE TO REMARKS OF PRIME MINISTER ON THE ORDERS OF THE DAT, MARCH 3
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Herbert Alexander Bruce

National Government

Mr. BRUCE:

I should only like to add that I wished no discourtesy to the Prime Minister; I would not wish to do anything that would be discourteous to any other member of this house. This item had been published in the press throughout Canada the day before and I thought it was well known. I thought probably the Prime Minister himself had read it.

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I believe I was justified in thinking that he had read it, because I had proceeded only with a few words before he stopped my reading further. He must have known what was coming.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I certainly

knew what was coming, and I realized that my hon. friend was reading the article for that purpose. But I also knew, what I thought he himself would have recognized, that what was stated in the article was something in the nature of what had been a confidential conversation, not between myself and others but among a few persons at a meeting at which a reporter was present but at which the request was made and an assurance given that no communication would go from the meeting to the public. I have been so informed by the gentleman whose name was mentioned yesterday in the attempted reading of the article. I think my hon. friend ought to have been the first, if he had intended to seek to give publicity to something over which I had no control whatever and which was in the nature of confidential discussion on the part of others, to have spoken to me about it in advance of bringing it up in this house.

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PRODUCTION PROGRAMME FOR 1943-AGRICULTURAL FOOD BOARD


On the orders of the day:


LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Hon. J. G. GARDINER (Minister of Agriculture) :

As I do not expect to have an

opportunity to reply to the question asked me the other day by the hon. member for Qu'Appelle (Mr. Perley) before it will be necessary to act upon the decision which has been made, I think I should give the house the information I have at the moment. A statement was made earlier in the session by the Minister of Finance (Mr. Ilsley) dealing with the division of authority between the food board and the Department of Agriculture on matters of production.

The food production programme for 1943 will be directed by an agricultural food board which has been set up by order in council which names four members of the staff of the Department of Agriculture as the board. This was done after consultation with the Canadian farm federation. An advisory committee of twelve will be set up. The president of the farm federation will be the chairman of that committee, one member will be nominated by each of the nine provinces and the other two members will be nominated by the farm federation. The orders in council

authorizing that committee and the board have been passed, and just as soon as copies are available, I shall table them in the house.

Topic:   PRODUCTION PROGRAMME FOR 1943-AGRICULTURAL FOOD BOARD
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SOCIAL SECURITY

March 4, 1943