February 12, 1943

CITY OF OTTAWA AGREEMENT

AUTHORIZATION OF PAYMENT OF $100,000 FOR THE YEAR ENDING JULY 1, 1943


Hon. ALPHONSE FOURNIER (Minister of Public Works) moved that the house go into committee at the next sitting to consider the following resolution: Resolved, that it is expedient to introduce a measure to authorize the Minister of Public Works on behalf of His Majesty to enter into an agreement to pay to the corporation of the city of Ottawa the sum of $100,000 for the year ending July 1, 1943. He said: His Excellency the Governor General, having been made acquainted with the subject matter of this resolution, recommends it to the consideration of the house. Motion agreed to.


UNITED NATIONS MUTUAL AID

PROVISION FOR APPROPRIATION OF $1,000,000,000 FOR PRODUCTION AND TRANSFER OF WAR SUPPLIES


Hon. J. L. ILSLEY (Minister of Finance) moved that the house go into committee at the next sitting to consider the following resolution: Resolved, that it is expedient to introduce a measure to provide: 1. That sums not exceeding one thousand million dollars ($1,000,000,000) be granted to His Majesty for the purpose of making war supplies available to any of the united nations. 2. That the governor in council may determine the terms and conditions upon which such war supplies are made available to any of the united nations and may require in certain cases payment or repayment in kind or property or reciprocal action or provision of supplies or other direct or indirect benefit as may be deemed appropriate. 3. That there be established a Canadian war supplies allocation board to carry out the purpose of this resolution, and that such board be authorized to employ officers, clerks and other employees necessary for the proper conduct of the business of the board. 4. That the governor in council may be empowered to raise by way of loan under the provisions of the Consolidated Revenue and Audit Act, 1931, such sum or sums of money not exceeding in the whole the sum of one thousand million dollars ($1,000,000,000) as may be required for the purpose of defraying the expenditures herein mentioned and for purchasing or otherwise acquiring or, procuring war supplies in Canada, the principal and interest of any such loan to be a charge upon and payable out of the consolidated revenue fund. Business of the House



He said: His Excellency the Governor General, having been made acquainted with the subject matter of this resolution, recommends it to the consideration of the house.


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Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GRAYDON:

May I ask the Minister of Finance at this time to make a statement to the house concerning this resolution?

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

This is not the stage.

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Richard Burpee Hanson

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

This is a very important resolution. It introduces an entirely new principle. At the very earliest opportunity the house and the country should be informed as to what the government's proposals are with respect to this whole question. If the minister is not in a position to make a statement to-day then he ought to say when he will be in a position to do so, so that hon. members can intelligently understand and discuss the resolution. It should be done at the earliest possible day, before the resolution proceeds very far, certainly before it gets into the committee stage.

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

If the hon. gentleman will read the remarks I made last Monday he will find there the fullest possible explanation of this resolution and of the bill to be based on it. I made a carefully prepared statement with regard to our policy of mutual aid. This is the resolution on which the war appropriation mutual aid bill is to be based. I could not make a fuller initial statement than I made then. But when the resolution is reached I will make another one.

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Richard Burpee Hanson

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

That is good enough.

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Motion agreed to.


BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

SUSPENSION OP DEBATE ON ADDRESS ON MONDAY, FEBRUARY 16, TO PROCEED WITH SUPPLEMENTARY WAR APPROPRIATION BILL


On the orders of the day: Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING Prime Minister): Hon. members will have observed from yesterday's Votes and Proceedings that the Minister of Finance has given notice that on Monday next he will propose in committee of the whole a resolution with respect to the 1942 Supplementary War Appropriation bill, to provide certain sums of money for the purpose of security and defence. The minister will explain to the house the urgency with respect to this matter. If in the light of that explanation hon. members would give their consent, I would then ask the house to entertain a motion to change the order of proceedings for Monday next so as to permit this resolution to be the first item of business to be called on the orders of the day.


NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson

National Government

Hon. R. B. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

In case that consent is given, may I ask the Prime Minister how far he proposes to carry the legislation on Monday? I ask that for personal reasons. I had anticipated taking part in the debate on the address on Tuesday, and I could not do that on a later day, before the vote.

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Perhaps I had better allow the Minister of Finance to state the urgency of the matter first, and then I can if necessary make a reply to my hon. friend.

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Hon. J. L. ILSLEY (Minister of Finance):

Mr. Speaker, this is the supplementary war appropriation for the current fiscal year, estimated as carefully as that can be done. I tried very hard to find ways and means of deferring the introduction of the resolution and the bill based upon it until after the debate on the address had been concluded, but the situation is so urgent that I dare not do that. About the fifteenth of the month, which is next Monday, there will be exceptionally heavy demands on the treasury, and the comptroller of the treasury advises me that we may be out of money, we may reach the limits of our existing appropriations, about Monday or Tuesday. If that is so and no other provision is made, bills presented to the government for payment, and which, should be paid, will have to go unpaid. Some of those bills are of a very urgent character, notably those relating to dependents' allowances.

I have communicated with the leaders of the various parties and groups in the house requesting their cooperation in. expediting this supplementary appropriation, giving the assurance that everything which could be discussed on this measure may be discussed on the main war appropriation which will be introduced next week, upon the conclusion of the present debate. I hope that without too much discussion the house on Monday afternoon will adopt this resolution and pass the bill through all stages. It will have to be done by waiving the rules, just as is done every year in the case of interim supply. I do not see that anyone will be placed at a disadvantage if this is done, and I think it should be done in view of the urgency of the situation. It may be that some hon. members will wish to draw the discussion out, but I hope not. The other house is assembling on

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Tuesday, and I am most anxious to get money with which to meet the government's obligations.

I think that is about all I have to say about the matter. It is urgent need that has moved us to propose this extraordinary procedure of breaking into the present debate, but it was suggested by others in the house a few days ago, and I cannot see any objection to it.

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Gordon Graydon (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. GORDON GRAYDON (Leader of the Opposition):

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February 12, 1943