July 24, 1942

CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

As I see it, whether or not this act is going to be of any benefit to the country will be determined largely by those who sit as

referees. How are these boards of referees selected? The newsprint industry is depressed. You would not call in the heads of that industry to sit in judgment on their own case, as we have done in connection with the dollar-a-year men here?

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LIB

James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

Under the act I believe the Minister of National Revenue selects the referees.

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

Will they be civil servants, responsible to the government?

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James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

There is a board which has been in existence for a year or two, of which Mr. Justice Harrison of Saint John is the chairman. The other members are Mr. Dalglish of Montreal, an eminent and able chartered accountant and former president of the dominion association of chartered aeount-ants, and Mr. Fell of Toronto, who at the time of his appointment was associated with one of the life insurance companies either as director or president. The board is highly regarded for its ability and fairness.

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CCF

Clarence Gillis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. GILLIS:

I am quite satisfied with that line-up. You have a judge at the head of it, and the minister has some jurisdiction over the board. I thought the selection might be made in the way that the government has chosen a number of the people who are really managing the country to-day, the dollar-a-year men, the heads of industries who really have been called in to act as sales agents for their own companies.

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Section agreed to. On section 2-Persons liable to tax.


LIB

James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

There is an amendment to be moved to this section, but I should prefer to have the committee rise, report progress and ask leave to sit again rather than go ahead with this act, because I want to give some attention to it and a little more thought than I have had time to devote to it so far.

Progress reported.

The house in committee of supply, Mr. Yien in the chair.

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DEPARTMENT OP AGRICULTURE


Administration service. 2. Publicity and extension division, $108,715.


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Robert Gardiner

Mr. GARDINER:

For the benefit of those who have not reviewed what took place the last time we were before the committee, we passed item 1 just before the debate concluded, but we discussed quite fully the publicity and extension division and also touched slightly

Supply-Agriculture

on the advisory committee on agricultural services. The discussion of administration covered pretty well the general questions which might be asked, but I would presume that hon. members would desire to discuss the other items under the head of science service, production service, marketing service and special. Just toward the end of the discussion on the last occasion I noticed that we were inclined to get down to a discussion of acreage payments and things of that kind, which really come under "special", and if we could wait until we reach that item before having any further discussion on those matters it might help us to get through more quickly.

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NAT

James Arthur Ross

National Government

Mr. ROSS (Souris):

I do not know that this is the proper item under which to mention it, but the Minister of Finance was asked a question concerning the advisory committee on beef.

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Robert Gardiner

Mr. GARDINER:

The proper place for that to be discussed, if it is to come up under these estimates at all, would be under "marketing".

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Robert Gardiner

Mr. GARDINER:

The cost of living bonus is added to the salaries all the way through the list, and that is the amount which covers this particular branch of the service.

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NAT
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Robert Gardiner

Mr. GARDINER:

Yes.

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Item agreed to. Administration service. 4. Contributions to empire bureaux, $36,274.


NAT

Gordon Knapman Fraser

National Government

Mr. FRASER (Peterborough West):

Would :he minister explain the item?

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Robert Gardiner

Mr. GARDINER:

These bureaux were

set up some years ago, and are lifted at page 54 of the estimates, as follows:

Farnham house laboratory $ 6,083 33

Imperial agricultural bureaux.. 21,917 33 Imperial bureau of entomology.. 5,353 34

Imperial bureau of mycology.... 2,920 00

These bureaux are established with offices in Great Britain to gather information with regard to experimental and scientific investigations in connection with agriculture in different parts of the empire, so that whatever is discovered in one place can be utilized in another.

Item agreed to.

Science service.

6. Animal and poultry pathology, $147,300.

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LIB

July 24, 1942