May 26, 1942

BANKING AND COMMERCE


First report of standing committee on banking and commerce.-Mr. Moore.


NAVAL SERVICES

REVISED RATES OF PAY AND ALLOWANCES


Hon. ANGUS L. MACDONALD (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services): Mr. Speaker, I should like to lay on the table of the house information in reply to certain questions asked during the discussion of expenditures of my department arising out of the war appropriation bill. This information was tabled previously, but I table it now again, in more up to date form, and ask that it be printed in Hansard.


NAT

Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

Does the information now being tabled contain the rates of pay?

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Angus Lewis Macdonald (Minister of National Defence for Naval Services)

Liberal

Mr. MACDONALD (Kingston City):

Yes, the information shows the revised rates of pay. With the consent of the house I should ask that it be printed in Hansard. The table follows:

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RATES OF PAY AND ALLOWANCES-ROYAL CANADIAN NAVAL SERVICE


Rank Rate per Diem (Basic Pay) Allowances per Diem Single per Diem Married- per Diem Lodging and Compensation Maximum Dependents Maximum Children In Quarters Out of Quarters In Quarters Out of Quarters No Children One Child Two Children No Children One Child Two ChildrenS cts. S cts. S cts. $ cts. $ cts. $ cts. $ cts. $ cts. S cts. $ cts. $ cts. $ cts.Commodore 1st Class 17 00 3 10 2 00 0 40 17 00 20 10 19 00 19 40 19 80 22 10 22 50 20 09Captain 15 00 2 10 2 00 0 40 15 00 17 10 17 00 17 40 17 80 19 10 19 50 19 70Commander 10 00 1 85 2 00 0 40 10 00 11 85 12 00 12 40 12 80 13 85 14 25 14 80Lieutenant-Commander 7 50 1 70 1 80 0 40 7 50 9 20 9 30 9 70 10 10 11 00 11 40 11 10Lieutenant 6 00 1 70 1 60 0 40 6 00 7 70 7 60 8 00 8 40 9 30 9 70 10 82Sub-Lieutenant 5 00 1 70 1 45 0 40 5 00 6 70 6 45 6 85 7 25 8 15 8 55 9 65Prob. Sub-Lieutenant 4 25 1 70 1 45 0 40 4 25 5 95 5 70 6 10 6 50 7 40 7 80 8 95Commissioned Officers from Warrant Rank 5 75 1 70 1 45 0 40 5 75 7 45 7 20 7 60 8 00 8 90 9 30 9 20Mate 4 75 1 70 1 45 0 40 4 75 6 45 6 20 6 60 7 00 7 90 8 30 8 70Warrant Officers 4 75 1 70 1 30 0 40 4 75 6 45 6 05 6 45 6 85 7 75 8 15 8 55Midshipmen 2 00 1 70 1 45 0 40 2 00 3 70 3 45 3 85 4 25 5 15 5 95Cadets 0 25 1 70 0 25 1 95 Chief Petty Officer 2 80 1 25 i is 0 40 2 SO 4 05 3 95 4 35 4 75 5 20 5 60 6 00Petty Officer 2 40 1 25 1 15 0 40 2 40 3 65 3 55 3 95 4 35 4 80 5 20 5 60Leading Seaman 2 10 1 25 1 15 0 40 2 10 3 35 3 25 3 65 4 05 4 50 4 90 5 30Able Seaman 1 85 1 25 1 15 0 40 1 85 3 10 3 00 3 40 3 80 4 25 5 05Ordinary Seaman 1 25 1 25 1 15 0 40 1 25 2 50 2 40 2 80 3 20 3 65 4 05 4 45Boy 0 50 1 25 0 50 1 75 Children's Allowance:-In addition to above, allowance of 30c. per diem for 3rd child and 20c. per diem for 4th child is payable to ratings only. Officers' Allowances:-Allowances to Officers specialized in certain branches of the service and Command and Staff pay are authorized in addition to basic pay. Rates vary according to the rank of the Officer and degree of responsibility and qualifications. Ratings' Allowances.-Non-substantive pay and miscellaneous allowances for special duty are authorized for certain ratings. Rates vary from 5c. per diem to 50c. per diem according to rating, qualification and experience. Skilled tradesmen are entered in their own branch on rates of pay which exceed the Seaman's rate by from 10c. to SI.00 per diem.



Progress of Sessional Business


BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

MOBILIZATION ACT AMENDMENT BILL-PROGRESS OP SESSIONAL BUSINESS


On the orders of the day:


NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Hon. R. B. HANSON (Leader of the Opposition):

I should like to ask the Prime

Minister (Mr. Mackenzie King) when he proposes to move the second reading of Bill No. 80, to amend the National Resources Mobilization Act.

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

In reply to my hon. friend I would say that that depends upon the progress which the house makes with the legislation which is before it at the present time. I need not tell my hon. friend that the government is anxious to get on with the business of the session, and the bill to which he has referred is one of the most important of the session. It is our wish to proceed with it at an early day. But it will not be proceeded with until the present war appropriation bill has been completed. The house has already given some four or five weeks to that particular bill, and I should hope that it would be possible to conclude its consideration, along with one or two other small measures, this week. I should hope it would be possible to go on with the other bill some day next week.

I would direct the attention of hon. members to the fact that up to the present time there has been practically no supply considered by the house, and the budget has still to be brought down. There are one or two other important measures on the order paper, and of necessity there may be further legislation before the present session is over- not that I am aware of any at present, but usually something unforeseen crops up at the last moment. If we are to get through before autumn I think we should begin very soon to make more rapid headway than has been made up to the present time. I am not at all sure that it might not be advisable in connection with further proceedings of the house to divide the days between some of the different measures, rather than to sit continuously in discussion of one particular measure. Might I in that connection say further that in my opinion some of the matters being dealt with under the war appropriation bill would be more properly dealt with in supply of the departments concerned. I do not refer to the defence departments. I am told it is the desire to consider some matters with relation to the Department of Agriculture, and if that were to take the form

of a discussion in committee of supply we might have the whole discussion over again when we are in committee of supply. Perhaps time might be saved if the matters to which references are made in the discussion on the war appropriation bill were confined to that bill itself.

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Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

To a large extent I agree with what the Prime Minister has said; but may I point out to him that while we are in the seventy-second sitting day of the session, we took twenty-one sitting days in the debate on the address. In those twenty-one days we heard no less than ninety supporters of the government. Then we were asked to put through to a conclusion another measure brought forth by the government, namely the plebiscite bill. Over half of the time of the house has been occupied in the discussion of those two matters.

With respect to the war appropriation bill I would point out that this is the largest money bill which has come before parliament, and I do not think our time has been lost in discussing it. It is the one occasion on which private members have the opportunity, and I say the duty, to investigate what the armed forces and the defence departments are doing. I suggest that the government should have brought on the ordinary estimates before this. There has been opportunity. The whole matter is in the hands of the government. They have taken authority to give government orders precedence; the order of business of the day is as the government directs,. and the responsibility is on the leader of the house.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Well, may I say to my hon. friend that I think he has to take a little of the responsibility.

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Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

I am willing to take mine.

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William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

He mentioned

the time taken up on the plebiscite bill. There would not have been a day taken up on it if my hon. friend had not objected to it. It was fought so strenuously from the other side of the house that it was necessary to make clear the reasons why it should be supported, and my hon. friend came round in his point of view before the debate was over. I am not either complaining or explaining; I am simply stating what I think all hon. members recognize to be a fact, that we might get along a little more expeditiously than we have been doing.

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Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

I hope so.

The Ministry

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May 26, 1942