May 4, 1942

NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

We know what we are getting for our bacon; we know what we are getting for our cheese; why should we not know what we are getting for our wheat?

Topic:   BRITISH WHEAT PURCHASES, 1939-42
Permalink
LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I will bring the matter to the attention of my colleague the Minister of Trade and Commerce, and he may inquire from the British cereals import board whether they are willing to have the price disclosed. Otherwise I think it should not be disclosed.

Motion stands.

Topic:   BRITISH WHEAT PURCHASES, 1939-42
Permalink

NATIONAL WAR LABOUR BOARD-WAGE AND BONUS ADJUSTMENT DECISIONS

CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

For a copy of the national war labour board's decision regarding wage and bonus adjustments and the reasons therefor, in the case of: (a) the application of the employees of the Martin Transport Company through their union, the Canadian Brotherhood of Railway Employees; (b) the application of the employees of the Dominion Coal Company and other coal companies in Nova Scotia through their union, district 26 of the United Mine Workers of America.

Topic:   NATIONAL WAR LABOUR BOARD-WAGE AND BONUS ADJUSTMENT DECISIONS
Permalink

TORONTO COAL TRADE

CCF

Joseph William Noseworthy

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. NOSEWORTHY:

For a copy of all correspondence, during the years, 1939, 1940, 1941 and to date in 1942, exchanged between, (a) W. A. Gunn and Mr. Ilsley, regarding cannel coal; (b) Mr. Roebuck, M.P., and Mr. Ilsley regarding Toronto coal trade; (c) Mr. Conant, Attorney General for Ontario, and Mr. Ilsley, regarding Toronto coal trade; (d) Mr. J. F. Ogston, manager of the Ferguson Fuels Limited, and the chairman of the wartime prices and trade board; (e) wartime prices and trade board and the fuel administrator and the Toronto retail fuel dealers' association, together with letters written by individual Toronto coal dealers to the wartime prices and trade board and the fuel administrator; (f) W. A. Gunn and Mr. Ralston and Mr. Ilsley regarding a 10 per cent

fMr. Crerar.]

import tax on coal covering the 1940 season; (g) the Toronto Retail Fuel Dealers' Association and the Toronto trade and industry commission.

Also a copy of the brief presented to the manager of the Combines Act by Senator McGuire, on behalf of the Toronto Retail Fuel Dealers' Association.

Topic:   TORONTO COAL TRADE
Permalink
LIB

James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

I submit that this motion should not pass without certain reservations. In the first place, some of the communications asked for will likely apply to the private business of those writing. If the motion should pass, and I have no objection generally speaking to its passing, it should be subject to the reservation that if it does not appear to be in the public interest to make public communications which relate to private business, those communications will not be produced. Secondly, the communications which passed between the Toronto retail fuel dealers' association and the Toronto trade and industry commission, if any, are not I assume in the possession of this government. Finally, I am not sure what official is meant by "manager of the Combines Act." Subject to these reservations I have no objection to the motion passing.

Topic:   TORONTO COAL TRADE
Permalink
CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

There are quite a number of reservations. I submit that when- a business or corporation is doing business with the government, the submissions they make and the business they do become public business and that therefore the communications referred to in the motion are in the nature of public documents and ought to be tabled. I submit that for the consideration of the minister.

Topic:   TORONTO COAL TRADE
Permalink
LIB

James Lorimer Ilsley (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. ILSLEY:

My view about that is this. There can be no objection whatever to bringing down communications between Mr. Gunn and myself, although I do not know what they were, nor am I sure that there were any, but I am quite sure he would be acting on behalf of a body of opinion in writing such letters, and naturally my letters in reply would not be privileged. The same remark would apply, I assume, to the communications between Mr. Roebuck and myself, if they were not marked confidential or private. I have no recollection of any such communications. The same remark would also apply to communications between the attorney general of Ontario and myself. But when we come to the communications between Mr. Ogston, whom I do not know, and the chairman of the wartime prices and trade board, I assume that Mr. Ogston might be revealing in complete form the details of his private business and therefore they would not be made public. There comes a limit beyond which communications should not be produced-the' type of communication, for instance, that passes

Defence of Canada Regulations

between the Department of National Revenue and taxpayers. They are not regarded as public documents or as documents which should be produced in the house.

With regard to the rest of the resolution it would appear to me that any communications between the wartime prices and trade board and the fuel administrator and the Toronto Retail Fuel Dealers' Association would be properly producible. But when it comes to letters written by individual coal dealers in Toronto, if there are any such, if a coal dealer stated the volume of his business and dealt rvith his personal problems in a letter I doubt whether it should be produced. Some discretion would have to be exercised by the minister as to whether the documents should be made public. I would not like the motion to pass without these reservations being made. Subject to these reservations, everything that can be produced will be brought down.

Topic:   TORONTO COAL TRADE
Permalink

AMIENS, SASK., POSTMASTERSHIP

UNITY

Dorise Winifred Nielsen

Unity

Mrs. NIELSEN:

For a copy of all correspondence, telegrams and other communications exchanged during the last six months, between the government and any individual regarding the post office at Amiens, Saskatchewan, and the appointment of a new postmaster in that office.

Topic:   AMIENS, SASK., POSTMASTERSHIP
Permalink

NO. 40 SERVICE FLYING TRAINING SCHOOL

SC

Ernest George Hansell

Social Credit

Mr. HANSELL:

For a copy of all letters, telegrams, agreements and other documents exchanged during the past year between the government or any department thereof, and any person or persons, regarding the changing of the name of No. 40 service flying training school from Kirealdy to Vulcan.

Topic:   NO. 40 SERVICE FLYING TRAINING SCHOOL
Permalink

OTTAWA CAR AND AIRCRAFT

SC

Charles Edward Johnston

Social Credit

Mr. JOHNSTON (Bow River):

For a copy of all letters, telegrams, agreements, evidence and other documents in the possession of the Department of Munitions and Supply, dated since the beginning of the present war, regarding the Ottawa Car and Aircraft Manufacturing Company of Ottawa.

Topic:   OTTAWA CAR AND AIRCRAFT
Permalink

DEFENCE OF CANADA REGULATIONS

APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER AND REVIEW REGULATIONS AND AMENDMENTS THERETO


Hon. LOUIS S. ST. LAURENT (Minister of Justice) moved: That a select committee of this house, consisting of the following members: Messrs. Bence, Bertrand (Laurier), Black (Yukon), Claxton, Dupuis, Hansell, Hazen, Maclnnis, McKinnon (Kenora-Rainy River), Martin, Maybank, Michaud, O'Neill, Ross (Calgary), Slaght, be appointed to consider and review the defence of Canada regulations (consolidation), 1941, and amendments thereto; with power to send for persons, papers and records; to examine witnesses under oath; and to report their opinions and observations from time to time to the house.


NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Hon. R. B. HANSON (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, this would seem to me to be an appropriate time for our new colleague the Minister of Justice (Mr. St. Laurent) to address this house on a formal occasion, and I invite him to do so.

Topic:   DEFENCE OF CANADA REGULATIONS
Subtopic:   APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER AND REVIEW REGULATIONS AND AMENDMENTS THERETO
Permalink
LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE (Vancouver Centre):

He will finish the debate if he does so.

Topic:   DEFENCE OF CANADA REGULATIONS
Subtopic:   APPOINTMENT OF COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER AND REVIEW REGULATIONS AND AMENDMENTS THERETO
Permalink

May 4, 1942