June 14, 1941

WAR EXPENDITURES

CHANGES IN PERSONNEL OF SPECIAL COMMITTEE

LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister) moved:

That the names of Messrs. Coldwell, Reid, O'Neill and Mcllraith be substituted for those of Messrs. Maclnnis, Mayhew, McGeer and Gray on the special committee on war expenditures.

Topic:   WAR EXPENDITURES
Subtopic:   CHANGES IN PERSONNEL OF SPECIAL COMMITTEE
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Motion agreed to.


RESIGNATION OF ASSISTANT CHIEF OF FRENCH JOURNALS

LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister) moved:

That the recommendation of the honourable the Speaker with respect to the resignation of L. P. Desrosiers, Esquire, assistant chief of French journals, House of Commons, laid on the table of the house on the 10th of June, 1941, be concurred in.

Topic:   RESIGNATION OF ASSISTANT CHIEF OF FRENCH JOURNALS
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Motion agreed to. Titles oj Honour


TITLES OF HONOUR

ELEVATION OF RIGHT HON. R. B. BENNETT TO THE PEERAGE


On the orders of the day:


CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. M. J. COLDWELL (Rosetcwn-Biggar):

I desire to direct a question to the Prime Minister. Was the approval or opinion of the government of Canada sought regarding the elevation of the Right Hon. R. B Bennett to the peerage of the United Kingdom?

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Subtopic:   ELEVATION OF RIGHT HON. R. B. BENNETT TO THE PEERAGE
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

In reply to my hon. friend, who was kind enough to inform me of his intention to ask this question this morning, I would say that some little time ago the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom informed me of what he had in his mind with respect to recommending the appointment of the Right Hon. R. B. Bennett to the House of Lords, and asked if I had any observations to make with respect to the matter.

Perhaps I can best explain the situation by reading the resolution of the House of Commons which was adopted in 1919 with respect to titles and orders, or rather, that portion of it which is pertinent. An address was presented to his majesty praying that his majesty may be graciously pleased:

fa) To refrain hereafter from conferring any 'title of honour or titular distinction upon any of your subjects domiciled or ordinarily resident in Canada, save such appellations as are of a professional or vocational character or which appertain to an office.

(b) To provide that appropriate action be taken by legislation or otherwise to ensure the extinction of an hereditary title of honour or titular distinction, and of a dignity or title as a peer of the realm, on the death of a person domiciled or ordinarily resident in Canada at present in enjoyment of an hereditary title of honour or titular distinction, or dignity or title as a peer of the realm, and that thereafter no such title of honour, titular distinction, or dignity or title as a peer of the realm, shall be accepted, enjoyed or used by any person or be recognized.

All of which we humbly pray your majesty to take into your favourable and gracious consideration.

A suggestion was made that the title of "right honourable" and "honourable" be discontinued, but the suggestion did not meet with the approval of the committee.

The house will see from what I have read that the question which was of importance in connection with what the Prime Minister of Great Britain had in his mind was as to whether or not Mr. Bennett might be regarded as being "domiciled or ordinarily resident" in Canada. My attention was drawn by the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom to the fact that Mr. Bennett had been a resident

of the United Kingdom for some time, and had permanently established himself in England, and did not consider himself as a resident of Canada, that he had abandoned his domicile in Canada and become domiciled and ordinarily resident in Great Britain, and therefore, in the opinion of the Prime Minister's advisers in the United Kingdom, any recommendation by him would not fall within the terms of the 1919 resolution of the House of Commons of Canada. It was added that Mr. Bennett had expressed his intention both in Canada and in Great Britain to live in England for the remainder of his life, and therefore that he could now rightly be regarded as falling outside the turns of the resolution as regards honours, and as a person who could properly be recommended for the award of an honour in Great Britain. In reply to the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom I said that I had no observations to make on what he had in mind, but I added that I was sure that Mr. Bennett's own statement would be accepted as a complete answer to any question arising out of the resolution of the Canadian House of Commons of 1919, as to whether or not he is to be regarded as domiciled or ordinarily resident in Canada.

I was also advised of the intention of His Majesty the King to invite the Hon. Vincent Massey to become a member of His Majesty's Privy Council in the United Kingdom, and of the intention of the Prime Minister of Great Britain to make the necessary submission. I was asked specifically whether I would approve the appointment. I replied I would approve most cordially of the appointment should it be made. I may add that I think the appointment has met with high approval in all parts of our dominion.

Topic:   TITLES OF HONOUR
Subtopic:   ELEVATION OF RIGHT HON. R. B. BENNETT TO THE PEERAGE
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An hon. MEMBER:

What about the other one?

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NAT

Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

Would the Prime Minister be good enough to lay on the table copies of all correspondence pertaining to Right Hon. Mr. Bennett's appointment?

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Subtopic:   ELEVATION OF RIGHT HON. R. B. BENNETT TO THE PEERAGE
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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I may say to my hon. friend who is leading the opposition that the correspondence is marked confidential. I have given to the house that part of it which I think is pertinent and I can assure him that there is nothing else in the correspondence which I believe the house would wish to know, though there are references to some matters which I think possibly Mr. Bennett himself and others would prefer to have remain confidential at least for the present.

Supply-Labour-Relief Commitments

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Subtopic:   ELEVATION OF RIGHT HON. R. B. BENNETT TO THE PEERAGE
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WOMEN IN WAR WORK

PERMISSION TO PROCEED TO THE UNITED KINGDOM ON RED CROSS TRANSPORT SERVICE


On the orders of the day:


LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister):

Some days ago the hon. member for Parkdale (Mr. Bruce) asked me a question as to the alleged refusal to have a permit granted to some ladies in Toronto who were anxious to cross to the United Kingdom to offer their services in connection with the Canadian Red Cross transport work. At the time ihe application was received there was nothing to indicate that the ladies who were applying for permission to proceed overseas were members of the Toronto detachment of the Canadian Red Cross transport service. The application came simply under their own names. When it was ascertained, after the hon. member for Parkdale drew my attention to the matter, that it was in connection with the transport service that the application had been made, the government immediately took steps to see that the necessary permission would be granted. The only reason for which it had been refused was the order in council which applies to individuals and which prohibits women from travelling to the European war zone unless granted special exemption.

The question of granting permission to Canadian women desiring to serve in this and similar organizations has recently been taken up with the government of the United Kingdom and tentative arrangements have been made as to the conditions under which women would be accepted for engagement. I understand that a representative of the corps has arrived in Canada to look into the question of securing suitable personnel and it is hoped that arrangements can be worked out under which women who have been accepted for employment in the corps may be granted permisison to proceed to the United Kingdom.

I have just read from the communication which I sent to the hon. member for Parkdale a day or two ago in order that he might understand the situation. There is every desire on the part of the government of Canada to see that women are given the fullest opportunity to participate in all phases of war work in which it may be thought advisable and helpful for them to take part.

The house in committee of supply, Mr. Vien in the chair.

Topic:   WOMEN IN WAR WORK
Subtopic:   PERMISSION TO PROCEED TO THE UNITED KINGDOM ON RED CROSS TRANSPORT SERVICE
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DEPARTMENT OF LABOUR

June 14, 1941