June 5, 1941


On the orders of the day:


NAT

George Stanley White

National Government

Mr. G. S. WHITE (Hastings-Peterborough):

Will the Minister of National Defence, before the house adjourns, give a report on the recruiting campaign?

Topic:   CANADIAN ARMY
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR STATEMENT AS TO PROGRESS OF CURRENT RECRUITING CAMPAIGN
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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Hon. J. L. RALSTON (Minister of National Defence):

I can tell my 'hon. friend now about the report with regard to the recruiting campaign. I had intended to do it on the estimates, but my hon. friend is concerned about it, and I shall be very glad to tell him vhat the situation is.

Reports this morning are that up to yesterday 24 per cent of the total allotment had been enlisted. That is, 24 per cent have been actually enlisted since the radio address which I made. That does not include those who were enlisted prior to that date, in connection with current reinforcements, which will have to be considered. I am not taking account of that now. That is, there is a total of 7,655.

I may say, with regard to the different districts, that each district is being informed not only as to the percentage which has been raised of its quota, but also of the percentages which all other districts have raised, so that each district may know just what increase is being made by it in comparison with other districts.

I may say, further, that to give a statement of this kind is perhaps not altogether fair to districts, for this reason: in connection with the call no less than 8,000 of the 32,000 which were asked for are asked for the purpose of replacing units of the fourth division which were absorbed by the armoured division. Those new units of the fourth division are just now in process of mobilization. The reserve units have been, in some cases, authorized to mobilize-I think perhaps in all cases now. But in some cases officers have not been completely appointed, and in districts where that is taking place the mobilization of those units will of course give a sudden impetus to the recruiting in such districts. We believe a large proportion of the personnel of the reserve units will come in at once. So that hon. members cannot be guided by time to time percentages until the recruiting of reinforcements and the recruiting of reserve units is complete.

In that connection my hon. friend gives me an opportunity to say this: we have had great help from civilian committees. I have been tremendously encouraged by the help which has been given, and the assurance as

to the work which the large civilian committees are doing. They are just, as a matter of fact, getting into their stride now. Recruiting has accelerated rapidly over the first days. I think yesterday was the second highest. It has more than doubled the recruiting of the first days after the call was made. I believe this improvement is due in large measure to the assistance which the civilian committees are giving, and I am sure to the assistance which the district officers commanding and their staffs are giving.

I only wish to say-I may have an opportunity to say it again-that I ask members to put their backs into this effort. I know they are doing so. I have had assurances from many of them, and also from members of provincial legislatures as well. I feel that at this time the thing to do, if I may say so, is to look at our particular corner of the vineyard. That is the place to work; and we have the right to expect that each person will do the same. I want to say to hon. members that most of what I have received by way of criticism has been constructive. There have been eases in which people have been blue, down and low. But that is what we have to take in connection with recruiting campaigns.

I consider this is partly a matter of raising men for units we have pledged to the British, and to fill up the fourth division as well. I have every reason to believe that with the acceleration which has taken place in the campaign, and with the assurances we have received, the campaign will be a complete success.

Topic:   CANADIAN ARMY
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR STATEMENT AS TO PROGRESS OF CURRENT RECRUITING CAMPAIGN
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NAT

Thomas Langton Church

National Government

Mr. T. L. CHURCH (Broadview):

Would the minister reply to a question on enlistments and the present system of records in his department? I asked about the same thing the other day, as to whether it would be possible to have an official statement given out monthly as to the enlistments in the various forces. The minister said he would reply to the question which had been asked by me in the house regarding records as to enlistments being published according to municipalities, like the victory loan and income tax, on a unit system.

Topic:   CANADIAN ARMY
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR STATEMENT AS TO PROGRESS OF CURRENT RECRUITING CAMPAIGN
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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

I am afraid my hon. friend's question has been a bit obscured by conditions in the house. If I understood him correctly he was asking, roughly, for enlistments in the three arms of the services. I do not know that that is possible. It depends of course on what activities there are in the army, and whether there are sufficient enlistments at that time. I doubt if what the hon. member suggests would be advisable. However, I shall take it into consideration.

Yukon Act Amendment

Topic:   CANADIAN ARMY
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR STATEMENT AS TO PROGRESS OF CURRENT RECRUITING CAMPAIGN
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NAT

Thomas Langton Church

National Government

Mr. CHURCH:

The air force adopted that system at manning pools. It is an incentive to recruiting in each centre to know what each town and province is doing, and the deputy minister for air arranged it in Toronto last July.

Topic:   CANADIAN ARMY
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR STATEMENT AS TO PROGRESS OF CURRENT RECRUITING CAMPAIGN
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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

The minister suggested that we should look to our localities. Could he tell us how military district No. 12 is proceeding?

Topic:   CANADIAN ARMY
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR STATEMENT AS TO PROGRESS OF CURRENT RECRUITING CAMPAIGN
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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

I shall be glad to tell my hon. friend. As I say, I do not think it is quite fair to the district officers commanding. As I have pointed out, the officers have a right to the information not only with respect to their own district, but with respect to other districts as well.

Topic:   CANADIAN ARMY
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR STATEMENT AS TO PROGRESS OF CURRENT RECRUITING CAMPAIGN
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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

Would the minister be good enough to inform the house as to military district No. 7? It would be extremely gratifying to every hon. member in the house.

Topic:   CANADIAN ARMY
Subtopic:   REQUEST FOR STATEMENT AS TO PROGRESS OF CURRENT RECRUITING CAMPAIGN
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LIB

James Layton Ralston (Minister of National Defence)

Liberal

Mr. RALSTON:

Yes.

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YUKON ACT AMENDMENT

PROVISION FOR APPOINTMENT OF STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES IN AND FOR YUKON TERRITORY


Right Hon. ERNEST LAPOINTE (Minister of Justice) moved that the house go into committee to consider the following resolution: That it is expedient to amend the Yukon Act to provide for the appointment of stipendiary magistrates in and for the Yukon territory. Motion agreed to and the house went into committee, Mr. Yien in the chair.


LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE (Quebec East):

This is a simple matter, arising from the substantial diminution of judicial business in the Yukon territory. It has decreased considerably from year to year. Conditions there are not at all what they were when the Yukon Act was enacted.

The Department of Mines and Resources, which is charged with the administration of the Yukon territory, suggested two or three months ago that when Mr. Justice Macaulay, who was the judge of the territorial court of the Yukon territory, retired, it would be better and much less expensive to have what is left of the legal business in that territory transacted by stipendiary magistrates, as is done in the northwest territory. Those magistrates are doing other work for the department, and the change would mean a substantial economy. Mr. Justice Macaulay has agreed to take his superannuation, and it became effective on the last day of May

only a few days ago. This authorizes the governor

in council to appoint a stipendiary magistrate to do what little work there is. He will also do other work for the Department of Mines and Resources. We will save the salary paid to the judge, and there will be other economies as well.

I regret that the hon. member for Yukon (Mr. Black) has had to leave, but I may say that I have discussed the matter with him. The first suggestion of the Department of Mines and Resources was to do away altogether with the position of the judge of the territorial court, but that is not what we are doing. We are not replacing him, but the position can be filled if this experiment does not prove satisfactory. The hon. member for Yukon would object to abolishing the position, but this bill was submitted to him before he left, and it meets his views.

Topic:   YUKON ACT AMENDMENT
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR APPOINTMENT OF STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES IN AND FOR YUKON TERRITORY
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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

I think the minister's statement covers the whole field. I am glad to hear him say that it is not intended at this time to abolish the position of judge of the territorial court, although on the grounds of strict economy such a course might be justified. No part of the country likes to see its status reduced, and that would be the effect. The minister has in mind the appointment of one stipendiary magistrate to act in lieu of the judge of the territorial court, who is at present an official of the government. Is there any objection to telling us who this official will be, and what are his qualifications? I am thinking that he should be a man with legal training.

Topic:   YUKON ACT AMENDMENT
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR APPOINTMENT OF STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES IN AND FOR YUKON TERRITORY
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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE (Quebec East):

Absolutely.

Topic:   YUKON ACT AMENDMENT
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR APPOINTMENT OF STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES IN AND FOR YUKON TERRITORY
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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

And of some standing in the community, because after all he is to administer justice. Will he have civil as well as [DOT]criminal jurisdiction?

Topic:   YUKON ACT AMENDMENT
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR APPOINTMENT OF STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES IN AND FOR YUKON TERRITORY
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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE (Quebec East):

Yes.

Topic:   YUKON ACT AMENDMENT
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR APPOINTMENT OF STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES IN AND FOR YUKON TERRITORY
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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

Will he. be clothed with the same jurisdiction as the judge of the territorial court?

Topic:   YUKON ACT AMENDMENT
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR APPOINTMENT OF STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES IN AND FOR YUKON TERRITORY
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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE (Quebec East):

Yes.

Topic:   YUKON ACT AMENDMENT
Subtopic:   PROVISION FOR APPOINTMENT OF STIPENDIARY MAGISTRATES IN AND FOR YUKON TERRITORY
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June 5, 1941