March 24, 1941

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Karl Kenneth Homuth

National Government

Mr. HOMUTH:

In view of the minister's

assurance that we shall have an opportunity of fully discussing these matters, I shall not delay the proceedings of the committee. However, I should like to remind the minister that there have been times when bills have been brought before the house at seven or eight minutes to eleven o'clock, which rather catches one off guard. If those who are interested could be given some intimation, perhaps the day before, as to when these matters are to be brought up for discussion, it would help greatly. Perhaps the minister can assure us that such notice will be given.

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

I have no hesitation in

giving that assurance to the hon. member for Waterloo South. Personally I welcome discussion in this committee or in the house.

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As the hon. member suggests, these orders in council are of a far-reaching nature, and the more thoroughly they are discussed and digested, the more helpful it will be, not only for this house but for the government itself. I shall endeavour to give my hon. friends plenty of notice and will not bring these matters into the house at eight minutes to eleven o'clock when many hon. members may not be present.

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Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

Does the minister propose to give to-day the statement to which he alluded the other day with regard to the details of the training scheme, and particularly with regard to what methods are being employed to bring trainees who have completed their training into contact with those who are ready to employ them?

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

We are endeavouring to

see that the trainees receive employment at the earliest possible moment. Under the directorship of Mr. Thompson a committee has been set up which will keep in contact with the trainees as well as with prospective employers. I believe that everything possible is being done to see that trainees who have received their training shall be placed as soon as possible.

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Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

Is the official to whom the minister refers resident in Ottawa?

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

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Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

What machinery does he use to get in touch, say, with those who come out of the training classes in British Columbia?

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

This work is carried on in cooperation with the provincial governments. Mr. Thompson was director of youth training and is now director of war emergency training. There is a seLup in each province which, subject to the supervision of Mr. Thompson, looks after the placing of these trainees. The hon. member realizes that in some provinces war industries are not concentrated to the extent they are in others and it is necessary that there should be a certain exchange of trainees, the trainees being brought to the industries. This whole matter was discussed at a conference which was held last week and at which I believe all . the provinces were represented. The whole plan was considered and I am told that the opinion was expressed that every possible step was being taken to see that trainees are brought into contact with industries that require them. In other words, it is a matter of dominion-provincial cooperation.

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Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

Is this committee a child of the provinces?

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

It is perhaps a child of the provinces and the dominion. The provinces appointed representatives to attend this conference. Along with Mr. Thompson and Mr. Crawford, the latter in charge of the plant training plan in Ottawa, it was decided to secure the most effective cooperation in placing trainees as well as in developing trainees.

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Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

What progress has been made in seeing that young men who have actually received this training get employment in the industries?

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

I shall have to supply my hon. friend with that information. I can give him the number being trained, if that would be of any assistance.

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Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

I think the minister

referred to that the other day.

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

I have referred to that already. I would have to get the figures as to the actual number of trainees placed.

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Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

Of course that is the test.

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

Quite. Generally speaking the placements have been most satisfactory. I shall place on Hansard the exact figures as to the number of placements. Sometimes it is a little difficult to get the proper records. For instance, a trainee may move from one point to another and neglect to advise us that he has been placed. We can give some figures, but we cannot undertake that they will be complete.

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Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

Before I left home at the beginning of February I attended the classes which were being held in my town and I was impressed with what I saw. These young men had acquired a considerable handiness and knowledge in a comparatively short time. But the principal and the instructors were worried over the next step, over how these lads in southern British Columbia were going to bring themselves into contact with industries which could use their services. I want to impress that fact upon the minister.

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

I appreciate that. I intended to give the hon. member for Yale some information in that regard. There were about fifty of these basic training schools to which he refers, and at that time definite plans were being made-I am speaking purely from memory-to place the trainees in an aircraft manufacturing plant in Vancouver. In other words, the plan is reasonably well coordinated. In one western city, for instance, we had 500 trainees. There was no employment for them there; and we had to move them, which we did, and I think every one of them has

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been taken care of. With reference to the particular school to which my hon. friend refers, the plan is to find employment for these trainees in the aircraft manufacturing plant in Vancouver, with, I think, the Boeing company.

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Howard Charles Green

National Government

Mr. GREEN:

What number of men who have been discharged from the forces and what number of middle-aged men have received or are receiving training at the present time under these training schemes?

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Norman Alexander McLarty (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. McLARTY:

I am afraid I cannot give definite figures to the hon. member. I try to keep as up to date as I can on the number of trainees, but to answer that question I would have to have one of the officials of the department here.

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March 24, 1941