June 4, 1940

LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

It is estimated that mineral rights were acquired with the land in about 1,200 cases where soldier settlers have repaid their loans. In all likelihood, in many instances there will be no minerals involved. For instance, a soldier settler in the Yorkton district of Saskatchewan would probably have no minerals in connection with his land. I cannot inform the committee the number of cases where mineral rights are known to exist.

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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SC

Frederick Davis Shaw

Social Credit

Mr. SHAW:

What percentage of those

residing upon soldier settler lands are the original soldier settlers?

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I cannot give that information now. As a matter of fact, it does not arise in connection with a discussion of this resolution. When the estimates of the soldier settlement board are being considered that information will be available to the hon. member.

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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NAT

Howard Charles Green

National Government

Mr. GREEN:

Is it the intention that there will be certain cases where the soldier settlement board will own the mineral rights, while the soldier settler or a civilian who may have bought out a soldier settler will own the land?

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I should say offhand that

if a soldier settler acquired mineral rights, paid for his land and then later sold 'he land

to a civilian after having acquired title, he could reserve the mineral rights if he wished to do so. That would be a matter of contract between the two individuals.

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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NAT

Howard Charles Green

National Government

Mr. GREEN:

It hardly seems fair that

the soldier settlement board should have title to the minerals, that they should not be passed on to the soldier settler or to whomever he may have sold his land.

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Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

The only case where

mineral rights would be reserved would be where a soldier settler had acquired land with the mineral rights, later abandoned it and the land had come back into the hands of the board and then was resold to a civilian. In such a case the mineral rights would not go to the civilian.

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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CON

Agar Rodney Adamson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ADAMSON:

Would the original

soldier settler have a right to the minerals on that land?

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

If he had paid for the

land.

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Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I did not get that question.

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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CON

Agar Rodney Adamson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ADAMSON:

A case might arise in

Cadillac township in Quebec where men might be settled after this war is over. They would receive the right to the minerals on the land from the crown.

Topic:   SOLDIER SETTLEMENT
Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

Not in

Quebec.

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

If the land was acquired

from some individual or company having mineral rights in the land, and they passed with the land, then we are providing that that shall pass to the soldier. This is assuming that he has paid for the land. If the land is purchased for him and he fails to pay for it; if he abandons it or it is sold to a civilian, we are providing that the mineral rights shall not pass to the civilian purchaser, but shall be reserved by the board.

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Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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NAT

Howard Charles Green

National Government

Mr. GREEN:

In the case of an original soldier settler who dies, will the mineral rights go to his heirs?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I assume the hon. member has in mind a case where a soldier settler had made all payments on his land and acquired title. I should think in that case the mineral rights would go to his estate.

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NAT

Karl Kenneth Homuth

National Government

Mr. HOMUTH:

Is the minister sure on that? It is an important matter. If a soldier had obtained land by meeting his obligations, is the minister sure that these rights would go to his heirs in the event of his death?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I think they would as a matter of common law.

Supply-Trade-Administration

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NAT

Howard Charles Green

National Government

Mr. GREEN:

This resolution states that you are taking power to grant to the original settler the mines and minerals acquired with the land. I want to know if you will also have power to grant those rights to his heirs if he has died in the meantime?

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Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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NAT

Richard Burpee Hanson (Leader of the Official Opposition)

National Government

Mr. HANSON (York-Sunbury):

Not unless it is in the statutes. I suggest to the minister that he look into that point.

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Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I shall get some information upon that before we are in committee on the second reading.

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Subtopic:   DISPOSITION OF MINES AND MINERALS ACQUIRED WITH OR UNDERLYING LANDS
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June 4, 1940