May 31, 1940

LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

In all those cases referred to, a sample will still come in, but in other cases it is not necessary to send one in. In cases of tests being made for germination, samples will not be sent in to the department in anything like the number of instances that there have been in the past.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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LIB

James Lester Douglas

Liberal

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weybum):

What do those services cost the government a year?

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I have not that information at present, but I can give it when the estimates are before the committee of supply.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

It seems to me that the minister's own statement rather damns the bill, when he says it will rather considerably decrease the number of people using this service. The minister is one of the men, along with many others in Saskatchewan and other parts of western Canada who have tried to encourage farmers to have seed tested, so that they may get into better grades of seed. I should think the government would be anxious to expand this service, rather than to see it contracted. If the charging of a fee is going to have the latter effect, as the

minister just said, then surely that would not be for the good of agriculture. If the amount of money which will come in is not very great, and is not going to reduce the government's expense to any appreciable extent, surely the harm of charging this fee is going to offset any good it may do.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I do not think there will be any great harm done. As a matter of fact, I do not think any harm will be done. Those who have been associated with this kind of work will realize it is a very simple thing to test seed for germination. The department will still give instructions to anyone who does not know how to test the seed. Not only will it save the work that has to be done in the department itself, or in other places under the department's direction, but it will also save the cost of sending seed and having it sent back again, where it is necessary to send it back, throughout the length and breadth of Canada.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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NAT

James Arthur Ross

National Government

Mr. ROSS (Souris):

Does this increase

the cost for inspection as to purity? I believe my question is along similar lines to that asked by another hon. member. For instance, where one has to obtain certain certificates to sell pure seed, will this measure add to the cost of obtaining those certificates?

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

To the extent that the fee is put on, it will add to that cost, but in connection with the quantities of seed that are to be sold, under certificates, it will amount to a very small charge per unit. If a person were sending in a small package of seeds for testing, as a sample of the seed he is going to sow, of course the charge would range higher on the quantity for which the test is made.

Topic:   SEEDS ACT
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO EMPOWER THE MINISTER TO PRESCRIBE FEES FOR SEED CONTROL SERVICES
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Section agreed to. Bill reported, read the third time and passed.


AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS

MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS


Hon. J. G. GARDINER (Minister of Agriculture) moved that the house go into committee to consider the following resolution: That it is expedient to introduce a measure to amend the Agricultural Products Cooperative Marketing Act, 1939, to provide for agreements with cooperative associations and processors, and to provide also for the calculation and payment of liabilities of the minister under any agreement and for the payment of administrative expenses. Motion agreed to and the house went into committee, Mr. Fournier (Hull) in the chair. 424 COMMONS Agriculture Cooperative Marketing


NAT

Ernest Edward Perley

National Government

Mr. PERLEY:

Will the minister please

explain?

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

The proposed amendments provide for a clarification of the terminology of certain sections of the act as a result of one year's experience in its administration. Some of these amendments are necessary also in order to bring sections into line with current practices of cooperative associations. Amendments also provide that the creation or naming of a selling agency to represent a cooperative association or processor may not be required except where necessary, and agreements under the amended act may be made direct with the cooperative association or associations or with the processor or processors, as well as with the selling agency.

The proposed amendment also includes two new sections to the act similar to those which were explained in connection with the Wheat Cooperative Marketing Act. One is to provide for a report to parliament of proceedings under the act, and the other to provide authority to pay any liability which may arise under any agreement, as well as to pay administration expenses.

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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NAT

Ernest Edward Perley

National Government

Mr. PERLEY:

How many cooperatives were formed last year, and what has the minister's experience been in respect of them?

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Products handled under the Agricultural Products Cooperative Marketing Act to the end of April, 1940, are these:

Saskatchewan honey pounds 511,000Manitoba honey pounds 1,130,000Saskatchewan alfalfa seed. ..pounds 1,158,750Ontario onions cwts. 168,000Fox pelts

30,000Mink pelts

2,000

Those are the principal commodities. The organizations are: The Saskatchewan Honey Producers Cooperative Association, the Manitoba Cooperative Honey Producers Limited, the Saskatchewan Alfalfa Growers Cooperative Marketing Association, the Ontario Onion Growers Cooperative Limited, and the Fox and Mink producers across Canada. Then, there is also an organization in British Columbia which handles grass seed.

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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NAT

Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

Does the minister mean

that six cooperatives were set up under this legislation, or that on six occasions assistance was given to existing ones?

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

There are more than six concerns set up. There is the Saskatchewan Honey Producers Cooperative Association, with headquarters at Fort Qu'Appelle. I believe that is in the constituency of the hon. member for Qu'Appelle. Then, there is the Manitoba Cooperative Honey Producers Limited, with headquarters at Winnipeg;

the Saskatchewan Alfalfa Growers Cooperative Marketing Association, consisting of eleven local cooperative marketing associations with headquarters at Prince Albert. There is the Erie-St.Clair Onion Growers Marketing Board at Leamington, Ontario, and the Saskatchewan Registered Seed Growers of Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. In connection with silver fox pelts there is the Canadian National Silver Fox Breeders Association. Then there are the Dominion Silver Fox Furs Limited, Summer-side, Prince Edward Island; and the Charlottetown Fur Sales Limited, Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island. These two have one central agency. Then there is the Prince Edward Island Fur Pool Limited, Summerside, Prince Edward Island, and L'Association des Eleveurs de Renards de la Province de Quebec, St. Hyacinthe, Quebec. Then there is the Dominion Fur Auction Sales Limited, Winnipeg, Manitoba. In connection with silver fox and mink pelts there is the Maritime Fur Pool Limited, Moncton, New Brunswick.

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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NAT

Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

What about British

Columbia?

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

The minister has forgotten the corn growers of Kent and Essex.

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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NAT

Grote Stirling

National Government

Mr. STIRLING:

Did not the minister

mention one organization in British Columbia?

Topic:   AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTS
Subtopic:   MEASURE TO PROVIDE FOB AGREEMENTS WITH COOPERATIVE ASSOCIATIONS AND PROCESSORS
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May 31, 1940