May 17, 1939

LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

The same in England.

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

How is that?

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

By the imposition

of the excise tax.

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

Can the hon. member

give the amount of labour engaged on the farm and factories by the beet sugar industry?

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SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

I was going to deal with that next. Thank you. The beet sugar industry is valuable to Canada's economy. It will supply much employment. One 1,200 ton capacity slicing mill such as that at Picture Butte will keep 10,000 people. Those people will all be in Canada. If you buy your sugar from Cuba you keep Cubans, but

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it happens at the present time the people to whom we are paying relief are Canadians. To produce 100 pounds of beet sugar furnishes twenty times as much employment for Canadians as to produce 100 pounds of cane sugar. Besides that, it uses much Canadian material. To produce 45,000,000 pounds of beet sugar, which represents about five per cent of Canada's consumption, consumed the following materials in 1933:

Coal $ 55,000

Sugar bags 100,000

Boxes, supplies and maintenance. 105,000

Lime rock 20,000

Coke 9,000

Freight 330,000

And $175,000 went for factoiy payroll and

S940,000 as payment to growers. So far as I know, practically every dollar of this was spent in Canada.

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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

Is that in Alberta alone, or in all Canada?

Mr. BLA'CKMORE: This would be in Alberta, but I think the same situation would exist with respect to all Canada. It happens that in Alberta we produce practically all these necessaiy materials. But there are many parts of Canada where the same condition exists.

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

What proportion of our consumption of sugar comes from sugar beets?

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SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

About 14 per cent.

It means much to our railways and transportation companies. The railways derive at least twice the revenue from beet sugar production that they do from cane sugar production; for they have to haul the incoming beets to the factory as well as the coal, limestone, coke and other supplies.

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

Could Alberta coal be used in the manufacture?

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

Oh, yes, Alberta coal is admirably adapted for almost anything. The beet pulp is hauled away from the factory by the railroads, and then there is the hauling of the live stock which are fed by it. Surely one could hardly think of an agricultural development in Canada which would be more in the interest of the railways.

Besides that, it will help to balance our trade. The more we produce within our own boundaries, the less we must buy from abroad. It means also a secure sugar supply in time of war. Those of us who remember the exigencies we fell into as a result of our short sugar supply during the last war should be impressed by that. I could say a great deal more about this industry, but perhaps I have said enough.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

Order. I regret to interrupt the hon. member, but he has spoken for forty minutes.

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SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

I am just closing.

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

The hon. member may continue only with unanimous consent.

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

Unanimous consent.

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SC

John Horne Blackmore

Social Credit

Mr. BLACKMORE:

Thank you. Surely, bearing in mind the three main considerations which I have outlined to-night, namely:

1. That the sugar beet industry is economically sound in Canada;

2. That the sugar beet industry is of very great value to agriculture as a whole in Canada;

3. That the sugar beet industry is of great value in the whole economy of Canada;

Everyone throughout the country should be eager to do whatever is reasonably possible to cause the development of that industry within this dominion.

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

I agree with what the hon. member for Lethbridge has said about the importance of the sugar beet industry. He said that the cattle could eat the leaves of the beets. Quite often they eat turnip leaves also; but when they eat the leaves of the turnips the milk has a turnip flavour, which is not so good. I wonder if it would not be possible, in case the cattle eat the leaves or the pulp of the sugar beets to take advantage of that for the sugar industry.

Topic:   PRAIRIE FARM ASSISTANCE
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LIB

David James Hartigan

Liberal

Mr. HARTIGAN:

Does the hon. member mean that the cow would make sugar?

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

Just a minute. At the

present time the sugar is extracted from the beets by a chemical process. There is an analogy between the making of sugar from beets and making it from the sap of the maple tree, although the former is a little more complicated. But if the beets are eaten by the cows I wonder if it would not be possible to treat the milk chemically, because the proportion of sugar in the milk would be higher if the cows ate the sugar beets, and that should facilitate the making of beet milk sugar, which would have an analogy with maple cream or something of the sort. I wonder if one cannot summarize the whole thing by saying that, instead of treating the beet pulp chemically, the milk of the cows which have eaten the beets could be treated.

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Item agreed to. Progress reported. Questions


May 17, 1939