May 1, 1939

PRIVATE BILLS

SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 105 WITH RESPECT TO NOTICE IN LOBBY OF CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE

LIB

Joseph Oscar Lefebre Boulanger

Liberal

Mr. O. L. BOULANGER (Bellechasse-for Mr. McPhee) moved:

That the provisions of standing order 105, that no committee on any private bill originating in this house is to consider the same until after one week's notice of the sitting of such committee has been first affixed in the lobby, be suspended for the remainder of the session.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
Subtopic:   SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 105 WITH RESPECT TO NOTICE IN LOBBY OF CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
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CON

Henry Herbert Stevens

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. H. H. STEVENS (Kootenay East):

This, of course, refers directly to the two bills introduced the other day. The understanding I gathered from the utterances at that time was that these bills would be referred, and were referred, to the banking and commerce committee; and that this committee, which has jurisdiction over these bills, should determine whether or not it was prepared to consider them without full observance of the rules.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE (Quebec East):

I thought this motion applied only to private bills.

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CON

Henry Herbert Stevens

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEVENS:

No, this motion applies to all committees; it so states. I object to this circumventing, shall I say, of the rules in an endeavour to achieve in one way what the other evening the house agreed should be considered in the proper way by the committee involved.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
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CCF

James Shaver Woodsworth

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. J. S. WOODSWORTH (Winnipeg North Centre):

My understanding was that of the hon, member for Kootenay East (Mr. Stevens); and I think this touches a larger matter. It has been urged that this session be closed in a very short time. Some of us have taken the position that we ought not to prorogue until we have finished the business of the house. I am quite willing personally, and I think the group with which I am associated are willing, that we should hurry matters as much as possible, but we do not propose to allow things to be railroaded through, or to have the ordinary rules either withdrawn or superseded by rules made simply for the occasion. I feel that if the government is going to take this attitude it will not help to expedite matters.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

This is not the government.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
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CCF

James Shaver Woodsworth

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

I know this is not a government measure, but if the government gives its sanction to this mode of procedure I do not think it will expedite matters at all. As I understand it, the rules are laid down for the protection of the house and for the safeguarding of certain legislation, and I regret that this sort of thing should be introduced at this stage.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Right Hon. ERNEST LAPOINTE (Minister of Justice):

I do not think the circumstances are as tragic as my hon. friend seems to indicate. Nobody in this house, on this or any other side, wants to railroad business through as my hon. friend suggests. Too many of these things are being said in Canada to-day, and it is not right that they should be said. We are quite prepared to stay here as long as my hon. friend wishes, and perhaps longer. But a motion of this kind is not a new procedure. Similar motions are made in the closing days of every session in order to permit the consideration of bills which for one reason or another come in only during the last days of the session. Who is going to suffer on account of it? If any interest is going to suffer I am quite willing to vote with my hon. friend. But I see nothing at all in the motion which would do anything except give a chance to certain bills which would not otherwise be heard. I repeat that no one on this side, the government least of all, has any intention of railroading any business.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
Subtopic:   SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 105 WITH RESPECT TO NOTICE IN LOBBY OF CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
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CON

Robert James Manion (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. R. J. MANION (Leader of the Opposition):

May I suggest that in view of the

lack of interest expressed by the Minister of Justice (Mr. Lapointe) himself in the bills mentioned, it is not fair that two or three bills should be put in a preferred position as these bills would be if the motion passes. I suggest to the Minister of Justice that the motion be allowed to stand, and that he give further consideration to letting these bills take the ordinary course. There would be a misunderstanding if two or three bills were put in a preferred position. I think the government should let them take the ordinary course.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
Subtopic:   SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 105 WITH RESPECT TO NOTICE IN LOBBY OF CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE (Quebec East):

I would

ask the hon. member (Mr. Boulanger) to agree that the motion stand until to-morrow.

Topic:   PRIVATE BILLS
Subtopic:   SUSPENSION OF STANDING ORDER 105 WITH RESPECT TO NOTICE IN LOBBY OF CONSIDERATION BY COMMITTEE
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LIB

Joseph Oscar Lefebre Boulanger

Liberal

Mr. BOULANGER:

I have no objection

to letting it stand, but I wish to point out that it applies only to private bills. The purpose of the motion is only to suspend rule 105, which requires a notice of five days. As the' session is coming to a close the motion seems a reasonable one.

Motion stands.

Private Bills

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FIRST READINGS-SENATE BILLS


Bill No. 110-For the relief of Dorothy Ger-true Mary Huggins Yaun.-Mr. Hill. Bill No. Ill-For the relief of Lola Margaret Miller Atkinson.-Mr. Walsh. Bill No. 112-For the relief of Zeno Bruck.- Mr. Plaxton. Bill No. 113-For the relief of Esther Steinberg Soloway.-Mr. McNiven (Regina City). Bill No. 114-For the relief of Sarah Sherry Miller.-Mr. Tomlinson.


QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-SECURITIES

SC

Mr. BLACKMORE:

Social Credit

1. What is the average rate of interest, at present, on the Canadian National Railways securities in the hands of corporations, banks and private individuals?

2 What is the sum total of interest and dividends and bonuses received by securities-holders of the Canadian National Railways since the Canadian National Railways was constituted in 1921?

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Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-SECURITIES
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LIB

Mr. HOWE: (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

1. The average annual rate of interest on Canadian National Railways securities in the hands of the public is 3-9773 per cent.

2. Total interest, dividends and premiums paid to security holders of the Canadian National Railways since 1921 amounts to 8798,849,855. This figure includes premiums paid on securities called for redemption prior to maturity, but does not include amortization of discount on securities issued at less than par.

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Subtopic:   CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS-SECURITIES
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May 1, 1939