April 12, 1939

LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Yes.

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John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

Along the line of the question asked by the hon. member for Winnipeg North, I understand the minister claims that the amount of bank currency has been increased in Canada. Has it been increased to meet the needs of consumers or the needs of the chartered banks?

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

The needs of the banks in this connection never are a question as far as the Bank of Canada is concerned. The needs of the whole economic community of

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Canada, studied day by day and week by week, constitute the index upon which the Bank of Canada bases its action.

Resolution reported, read the second time and concurred in. Mr. Dunning thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 93, to authorize the raising, by way of loan, of certain sums of money for the public service.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

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UNEMPLOYMENT RELIEF

MEASURE TO PROMOTE AND ASSIST TRAINING OF YOUNG PEOPLE


The house resumed from Monday, March 13, consideration in committee of the following proposed resolution-Mr. Rogers-Mr. Sanderson in the chair. That it is expedient to introduce a measure for the purpose of promoting and assisting in the training of unemployed young people to fit them for gainful employment in Canada and, for such purpose, to appropriate sums aggregating four million five hundred thousand dollars to be expended over a period of three years beginning with the fiscal year ending the 31st March, 1940. The application of the act and the payments made thereunder to be conditional upon such terms and conditions as may be agreed upon with the several provinces. Hon. NORMAN McL. ROGERS (Minister of Labour): The purpose of the bill to be based upon this resolution is set out accurately in the resolution itself. Briefly stated, the purpose is to ensure continuity over a period of three years for the training given to unemployed young people in cooperation with the provinces. During the past two years, under the Unemployment and Agricultural Assistance Act, appropriations have been made for a similar purpose. In the fiscal year 1937-38 the appropriation was $1,000,000. In the following year the new appropriation was $1,500,000. In the proposed legislation it is intended to fix the annual appropriation at $1,500,000 and to extend that for a period of three years. It has been submitted to us by the provinces that continuity of the training program assured in this way will permit of much greater efficiency and more satisfactory coordination of the various youth training plans. If it meets with the approval of hon. members, I intend to reserve any extended remarks of mine until second reading of the bill, at which time there will be debate upon the principle of the measure. The discussion as to details might be reserved until we reach the committee stage. Resolution reported, read the second time and concurred in. Mr. Rogers thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 94, to provide for the training of young people to fit them for gainful employment. Motion agreed to and bill read the first time. SUPPLY The house in committee of supply, Mr. Sanderson in the chair.


DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE


Jf9. Housing branch, $70,610.


SC

James Alexander Marshall

Social Credit

Mr. MARSHALL:

Would the minister

explain the increase in the vote?

Hon. CHARLES A. DUNNING (Minister of Finance): This is one of the few branches of the Department of Finance I am gratified to see growing, because its growth follows and corresponds with the increase in the volume of National Housing Act loans and home improvement act loans. The increase is due entirely to the larger staff made necessary by expansion of the work of the branch in the manner I have just indicated.

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

In the development of an entirely new branch, a great many of the employees are necessarily on a temporary basis.

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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

During the present winter I believe the director of housing visited Vancouver and investigated a number of complaints with respect to the quality of materials used in the construction of many of the houses built under the housing act. Has the minister had a report from the director as to what he found, and can he make some explanation to the committee?

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

I had such a report,

although it is not before me at the moment, and I hesitate to speak from memory with regard to it. But when complaints are made that specifications authorized by the department have not in certain particulars been properly followed, we try to investigate, and to put on the right track whoever may be on the wrong track. I remember that such a situation did develop in Vancouver. I shall be pleased to get a copy of the report and let the hon. member see it. I remember distinctly, however, that the conditions complained of have been definitely ironed out.

This qualifying remark I should like to make: There are two parties other than the government definitely interested in seeing to it that specifications are followed. One is the owner of the house, the man who will own and live in it, and the other is the mortgagee

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who is advancing the major part of the necessary funds. It is therefore only on rare occasions that we. are appealed to with respect to living up to specifications, because the persons affected have a sufficiently keen interest to ensure a proper procedure in that regard. It is natural that in attending to their own interests they will see that specifications are adhered to. I shall be pleased to get the information for the hon. member.

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Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

There were complaints of two kinds. The minister lias referred to one of them, and the other, concerning which I had some correspondence, was that loans under the act were very hard to get, except in the best residential sections of the city. The minister has answered my first complaint as far as he can, with the information before him. Have any steps been taken or regulations made to ensure that people who buy houses shall get what they pay for?

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

That in fact was the

reason for the investigation to which my hon. friend referred.

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CCF

Abraham Albert Heaps

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. HEAPS:

There is provision this year for the expenditure of almost twice as much as was spent in the past year. I am not objecting to that in the least, because I assume it is on account of the extra amount of work the department is compelled to undertake in view of the increase in the number of loans-

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LIB
CCF

Abraham Albert Heaps

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. HEAPS:

Yes, because of the increased volume of loans by the department. There is one part of the housing scheme in which I am particularly interested, and I should like to know how much progress has been made in connection with it. I refer to schemes which private or public corporations have undertaken under the housing legislation of 1938.

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

I presume the hon. member has in mind part II of the housing act, which has to do with low rental houses.

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CCF

Abraham Albert Heaps

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. HEAPS:

Yes, the low rental housing scheme. I do not know what progress has been made by the department or by municipalities, but I understand that difficulties have cropped up here and there. I do not know whether the department or the corporations have been responsible. So far nothing definite has evolved out of all the discussion which took place, and yet in most of the large municipalities of Canada there is a great need for low rental housing. Could something not be done in connection with most of the large municipalities of Canada- it could be arranged without changing the act; it could be done through administration

-to start schemes wherever feasible? It would provide, first, much needed housing facilities, and, second, provide employment for a class of artisan who has had very little employment for a number of years. Perhaps the minister has information which has not been available to some of us. If so, I would be extremely glad if he would impart it to the committee.

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April 12, 1939