March 15, 1939

LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

Oh, oh.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

Well, after all, I think the hon. gentleman who groans represents more fully than anything else the first syllable of the city from which he comes.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART:

A Windsor groan.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

And that, after all, if he will look-

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

I missed that pearl of humour.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

If the hon. member will look at the record he will find that operations under the Dominion Housing Act, providing as it did for houses of an average value of $4,000, were successful to the degree of about $25,000,000. I have not .the exact figure in my hand. That was a fair fillip to the construction industry. But this "moribund legislation," even in the face of recommendations of the national employment commission, which came in a year and a half before, remained on the statute books for two and a half years 'before it was changed.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART:

And not changed much.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

"The government has taken every step possible to stimulate the building industry." Shall I say " that statement is made by one who ought to know better "?- that was the minister's phrase. What about the years which have gone by? What about the lack of cooperation of the provinces? The old chestnut of provincial rights was not merely trotted out this afternoon by the minister; it was brought in with a blaze of glory. He referred to it very guardedly and carefully for the consumption of those in all the provinces, be the provincial government guilty of " conspiracy " or otherwise. Mr. Speaker, the admission this afternoon in the speech of the Minister of Labour was a most fatal admission; and if the Prime Minister (Mr. Mackenzie King) were listening-

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I am listening; my hon. friend has no right to insinuate that I am not. I have no difficulty in hearing him.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

I am sorry, Mr. Speaker. I was just judging by appearances. I did not think my right hon. friend was listening.

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Well, he cannot help being bored.

1936 COMMONS

Unemployment and Agricultural Distress

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

If the right hon. gentleman had been listening this afternoon, intently, he would have heard his minister say-as he did-that every possible step had been taken to stimulate the building industry. I wonder if he feels that that is an accurate statement. He realizes also that his minister was compelled to make the statement-not in so many words, no-to make the statement that it was lack of cooperation between the federal government and the provincial governments that was nailing down the lid of the Liberal coffin more than any other single factor, so far as the efficiency of the government was concerned-handicapped and hamstrung on every angle by the absence of cooperation.

"We have taken every step possible to stimulate the building industry."-whereas all hon. members know the difficulty or the handicap in the way of stimulation is the lack of federal cooperation with the provincial governments.

Then the minister, toward the end of his speech, said "the government has met the problem of unemployment." I repeat, "The government has met the problem of unemployment." I wonder if those hon. gentlemen coming from industrial areas are prepared to go back to those areas, to meet the man on the street who is still unemployed or the youth who has yet to find his first job, and say, "Cheer up, old boy; all is well. The government has met the problem of unemployment. The Minister of Labour told me so."

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LIB

Paul Joseph James Martin

Liberal

Mr. MARTIN:

The Minister of Labour did not say that.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

He said it, word for word.

I wrote it down as he said it-"the government has met the problem of unemployment." Perhaps that would be a statement for a stump speech on the hustings; perhaps it has been thrown out in the House of Commons for some purpose or another. But what purpose does a statement like that serve for the man who is still unemployed? The government has not met the unemployment problem. If the minister thinks for a single, solitary minute that such figures as he put on Hansard this afternoon indicate in any way, shape or form that the government has met the problem of unemployment, then he is wrong. There are 978,000 dependent upon relief in this country; tens of thousands of the youth of this country wandering about, trying to find something here or there-eking out an existence. "The government has met the problem of unemployment!" I think there has been no more damnable statement made than that in this House of Commons.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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LIB

Walter Edward Foster (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

Order. The hon. member should not use that word.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

If the word is objectionable, I would withdraw it-but the house knows what I mean.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Has he withdrawn?

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

"If the situation in Canada is relatively better, why should we not be pleased?" Those were more of the minister's honeyed words. If the situation in Canada is relatively better than it is in any other country of the world, why should we not be pleased? The fact that we may be better oS in Canada than people in some other countries does not make the condition here as it should, or could, and must be. We are better off than they are in Czechoslovakia. We are infinitely better off than the peoples living in some of the European countries at the present time. That we well know, and we thank God for it. But that does not provide the government with an excuse or alibi for the fact that conditions are no better in Canada than they are.

"We have no ground for despair in Canada." We have no ground for despair of our country, but we have of the government. Yes, we have of the government. After all, we must perforce realize that we are faced with a situation which may not be very palatable from the point of view of those who occupy the treasury benches. But the fact remains that we have not done all we can by any manner or means to stimulate construction, or any other industry. And just because things may be relatively better in Canada does not make conditions here right. Because things are relatively better in Canada does not preclude the right of some of us in this house rising in our places and calling the attention of the government to a situation which they themselves know exists, but which they seem either unwilling or powerless to deal with. Either the government does not understand the problem or else it is unwilling to deal with it-or both.

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March 15, 1939