March 13, 1939

LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

The body which has an

appropriation for the purpose, but it must be all under the supervision of the director.

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CON

Harry James Barber

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARBER:

Any department?

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

Yes.

Topic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

If the purchase of apparatus is to be made only with the consent of the board, I do not see anything in the bill which would similarly prevent any department from making its own pictures with such apparatus as it has now. It is not incumbent upon the department to turn over its apparatus to the motion picture bureau, so it can continue its own little parasitical bureau.

Topic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

Yes, but it cannot produce any films. Section 11 provides that all processing and production of films must be undertaken by the bureau, except where the commissioner agrees that the work can be done through officers of other departments. They cannot make their own films without the consent of the commissioner.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

But on the other hand the departments now have a certain amount of apparatus of their own, and the temptation will be for the departments to continue the work they are now doing. They may be able to prevail upon the commissioner to give them permission to do so. Why not have the departments turn over all apparatus to the bureau?

Topic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

That is probably what will happen. The possibility of any department going on with the production of its own films is rather remote, in view of the bill now being considered. They cannot do very much in the production of real films in any event. In the past they have either used the equipment of the bureau or had the work done by an outside firm. They can no longer do that without the consent of the board and the commissioner.

Topic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
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Section agreed to. Section 11 agreed to. On section 12-Employment of temporary staff.


CCF

Charles Grant MacNeil

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacNEIL:

Is there any good reason why we should not allow these appointments to be made under the civil service commission?

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

For the simple reason that in many instances, perhaps when certain films are being made, a great deal of temporary help will be required, perhaps specially qualified help. It would take too long to have these appointments made by the civil service commission; and I think perhaps it is no insult to the commission to say that possibly the officer of the board would be much better qualified to select these technical temporary employees than would the civil service commission. In point of the time

National Film Board

required, particularly, it would be quite out of place to utilize the services of the civil service commission.

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CCF

Charles Grant MacNeil

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacNEIL:

Then what procedure will be followed in engaging temporary personnel?

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

The director of the bureau may employ temporary help.

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CCF

Charles Grant MacNeil

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacNEIL:

Would it not be possible, in anticipation of a demand of that kind, to have an eligible list established by the civil service commission from which the director could draw from time to time? We pass act after act in this house containing the expression "notwithstanding anything in the Civil Service Act," and at the same time the government has declared itself as being in favour of the merit system.

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

What my hon. friend says is true in a general way. But supposing the bureau has to produce a particularly important film, or a film of such a character that it became necessary to bring somebody even from Hollywood; I do not think anyone would expect the director to go to the civil service commission to obtain a person of that sort. This has to do with men of technical qualifications, engaged for very short periods.

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Section agreed to. Section 13 agreed to. On section 14-Central government film distribution service.


CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

Would the minister explain to the committee what government film distribution service there is at the present time? Is this in addition, or is there any change?

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

It is really just an expansion of the present service. The bureau-is distributing films now, and it is perhaps to make it just a little more official. Assistance will be given by this departmental committee which is to be set up, and this is more or less to give it official standing.

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CON

Denton Massey

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MASSEY:

To incorporate it in the act?

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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

Yes.

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Section agreed to. . Section 15 agreed to. Bill reported.


March 13, 1939