March 9, 1939

LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

It would be in the hands of any minister who wished to distribute the film.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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SC

William Hayhurst

Social Credit

Mr. HAYHURST:

I think the appointment of a commissioner would be an excellent idea because, as all hon. members know, visual instruction is important these days. Coordination of the work of the different departments could be brought about by a commissioner. But, in connection with a position as important as the one now in question, -would the minister assure us that the appointment would be made because of efficiency and not because of political leaning?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

I will give that assurance very freely.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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CON

David Spence

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPENCE:

What does the hon. member

expect?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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CON

William Allen Walsh

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALSH:

I notice the word "commissioner" appears in the resolution. Would such commissioner have the same status as a commissioner of immigration or a commissioner of excise, and other officials of that kind?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

If the hon. member is inquiring as to whether or not he would have the status of a deputy minister, I would say, no.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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CON

James Earl Lawson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LAWSON:

Would the minister suggest what functions the commissioner would perform other than those now being performed

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by Mr. Badgley of the motion picture bureau?

I understood the minister to say that one of the objectives is to get better distribution than has been obtained heretofore. Conceivably that might be one reason. Can the minister suggest any other purpose for this higher salaried official-because that is what he would be-being superimposed on the top of the motion picture bureau we already have?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

For the information of the hon. member may I point out that there is a section in the bill describing the duties of the commissioner.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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CON

James Earl Lawson

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LAWSON:

But that does not mean much. However, I shall leave discussion of that point until the bill is introduced.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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LIB

William Daum Euler (Minister of Trade and Commerce)

Liberal

Mr. EULER:

Possibly it would be better to discuss it then.

Resolution reported, read the second time and concurred in. Mr. Euler thereupon moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 35, to create a national film board.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   NATIONAL FILM BOARD
Sub-subtopic:   REVIEW OF GOVERNMENT FILM ACTIVITIES-INTERDEPARTMENTAL COMMITTEE TO CENTRALIZE DISTRIBUTION
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PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION


Hon. J. G. GARDINER (Minister of Agriculture) moved that the house go into committee to consider the following resolution: That it is expedient to bring in a measure to amend the Prairie Farm Rehabilitation Act to extend the period of its operation and to vest in the minister authority to enter into certain agreements and to carry out and perform certain duties incidental to the operation of the act. Motion agreed to and the house went into committee, Sir Eugene Fiset in the chair.


LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

The Prairie Farm Rehabilitation Act was passed in 1935 under which an advisory committee was set up to advise the minister. Section 7 reads:

The governor in council may make such regulations as may be necessary or expedient for the effectual execution and working of this act and the attainment of the intention and objects thereof.

That is really the active part of the legislation. During the-four or five years this act has been in operation we have found it necessary to do certain things by regulation which, now that the practice has been established, we think should be in legislative form. The act of 1935 set out that certain amounts were to be expended over a five year period. That period comes to an end this year, and the

intention is to take the date out of the act in order to make it possible to continue activities under the prairie farm rehabilitation legislation. The practices which have been found necessary to be followed in order to carry out the intention of the act, and which will now be put in legislative form are, first, the entering into agreements with provinces, cities and other municipal bodies for the carrying on of activities within the province or the municipality; second, the acquiring of lands. Where we decide to flood areas we sometimes have to acquire land before it is done. Then, on occasion in connection with irrigation activities we have to acquire land, and also sometimes in the setting up of community pastures. Instead of basing our action on order in council, based upon regulation, we are asking for legislative authority to do it by order in council. The other provision has to do with the acquiring of machinery necessary to the carrying out of works, and the disposing of that machinery when we are through with it.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION
Sub-subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PERIOD OF OPERATION OF ACT, ETC.
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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weybum):

There are a

number of matters I should like to discuss, but perhaps it would be better to leave them until the bill is before us in committee.

I should like, however, to ask the minister if he can give us certain information now which would enable us to discuss this matter more intelligently when the bill is brought down. For instance, I have in mind what sums of money have been spent under the act, what projects have been undertaken, where they are located and their cost. If the minister had a table containing this information, perhaps he could place it on Hansard. If we had this information before us, I am sure it would save us asking a number of questions when the bill is brought down.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION
Sub-subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PERIOD OF OPERATION OF ACT, ETC.
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I have no information

available to provide what has been suggested by the hon. member for Weyburn (Mr. Douglas), that is, to indicate where these different works have been carried out and their number. I can say, however, that the first year the act was in operation $750,000 was voted, and to the best of my memory the amount expended was in the neighbourhood of $400,000. The next year $1,000,000 was voted and a little over $750,000 was expended. The year following $2,000,000 was voted and between $1,600,000 and $1,700,000 was expended. This past year $3,500,000 was voted, of which the greater part will have been expended before the end of March. I do not think there will be more than $100,000 remaining unexpended if there is that amount. The number of projects runs

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into the hundreds, and I am not sure that they do not run into the thousands. It would be impossible for me to enumerate them at the moment, but I can have the information brought down and placed on the table so that hon. members can discuss the matter in detail when the legislation is going through or on my estimates, which, after all, would give us the best opportunity.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION
Sub-subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PERIOD OF OPERATION OF ACT, ETC.
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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

I was not

thinking so much of a list of all the projects; what I had in mind were the larger projects, and possibly the total number of dug-outs, the total number of dams, the total number of acres put under irrigation, the total number of community pastures set up, and so on. If the minister has not that information, perhaps he will have it available in committee.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION
Sub-subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PERIOD OF OPERATION OF ACT, ETC.
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I think most of that information has been made available already, either in answers to questions or in preparation of orders for return. If any orders have not been brought down, they will be tabled within a short time, in order to have them available before this legislation is discussed.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION
Sub-subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PERIOD OF OPERATION OF ACT, ETC.
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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

I have been

watching for that information. If we can have it before the bill is brought down, we shall be able to discuss this matter much more intelligently.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION
Sub-subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PERIOD OF OPERATION OF ACT, ETC.
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I will see that that is done.

Mr, HANSELL: Will there be much difference between the present bill and the previous act, or is it just intended to extend the period of time?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION
Sub-subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PERIOD OF OPERATION OF ACT, ETC.
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

The only amendment to the phraseology of the old act is to extend the period of time, and then three sections are being added to do under legislative authority what I suggested a moment ago had been done previously by regulation and order in council.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   PRAIRIE FARM REHABILITATION
Sub-subtopic:   AMENDMENT TO EXTEND PERIOD OF OPERATION OF ACT, ETC.
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March 9, 1939