February 13, 1939

CON

Robert James Manion (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

They were in this instance.

Here is a request under date of January 26, 1938, from the interdepartmental committee. It reads: .

It is private and not public tender that is intended. The committee would like to know if this would affect the placing of your order in Canada realizing the probable delay incurred thereby. This information is for confidential use of interdepartmental committee which is working on proposed contract.

What was the answer of the war office to that?

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LIB

Walter Edward Foster (Speaker of the Senate)

Liberal

Mr. SPEAKER:

I am sorry to interrupt, but the hon. member has exhausted his time.

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LIB
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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Time.

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LIB-PRO

Joseph Thorarinn Thorson

Liberal Progressive

Mr. J. T. THORSON (Selkirk):

The reply from the war office was:

Must emphasize that any further delay may adversely affect the proposal. In this connection firm having done necessary technical investigation obviously has the advantage.

Also, on February 5, 1938:

As regards alternative tender several months would necessarily be required for another firm to study job before making reasonable tender. This delay would be fatal to British interest in scheme.

Then there is Colonel Loggie's report to the secretary of Canada House. Colonel Loggie was the ordnance representative. His statement is contained in exhibit 224 as follows:

5. In his cabled reply, a rough draft of which was shown to me, Sir Harold emphasized the necessity of the immediate completion of a satisfactory agreement and mentioned the fact that a firm having carried out technical investigations obviously had the advantage, or words to that effect.

6. Sir Harold mentioned that should further delays occur a serious situation would arise in that the Enfield plant would be idle or nearly so before a Canadian entered production. He felt that unless immediate action was taken by the Canadian authorities the war office might be obliged to withdraw from participation in the scheme. I took occasion to ask him that in the event an auxiliary source of supply was established in Great Britain whether tenders would be invited or a suitable firm selected. He said, "We would select a firm."

The house divided on the motion (Mr MacNeil) which was agreed to on the following division:

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LIB

Gerald Grattan McGeer

Liberal

Mr. McGEER:

Do not be foolish. No one in Canada would believe that.

Let us come now to the other point about this particular issue. The committee did demand tenders; they did demand that the war office be requested to agree to a tender program, and they cabled a request to that effect to the war office. And what happened?

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Messrs:

Anderson

Baker

Barber

Beaubien

Bertrand (Prescott) Black (Chateauguay-Huntingdon)

Black (Mrs.) (Yukon)

Blaekmore

Blair

Blanchette

Bonnier

Bothwell

Bouchard

Bren Gun-Division

Boulanger

Bradette

Brooks

Brunelle

Cardin

Casselman

Church

Clarke (Rosedale)

Cleaver

Cochrane

Coldwell

Cote

Damude

Davidson

Deachman

Denis

Deslauriers

Donnelly

Douglas (Queens)

Douglas (Weyburn)

Dubois

Dubuc

Dupuis

Dussault

Elliott (Kindersley)

Esling

Euler

Evans

Fafard

Fair

F arquhar Ferguson Ferland Ferron

Fiset (Sir Eugene) Fleming Fontaine Fournier (Hull) Fournier (Maison-neuve-Rosemount) Francceur Furniss Gardiner Gariepy Gauthier Gladstone Glen Golding Gosselin Grant

Lapointe (Matapedia-Matane)

Lapointe

(Quebec East) Leader Leduc Lennard Lockhart McAvity McCalluin McCann McCulloch Macdonald

(Brantford City) McDonald (Pontiac) McDonald (Souris) McGeer McGregor Maclnnis McIntosh McKenzie

(Lambton-Kent) MacKenzie (Neepawa) Mackenzie

(Vancouver Centre) MacKinnon

(Edmonton West) McKinnon (Kenora-Rainy River) McLarty

MacLean (Cape Breton North-Vic tori a) McLean (Melfort) McLean (Simcoe East) MacLennan MacMillan MacNeil MeNevin

(Victoria, Ont.)

Me Niven

(Regina City) MacNieol Macphail (Miss) McPhee Mallette Manion Marshall Matthews Maybank Mayhew

Rogers

Ross (St. Paul's) Ross

(Middlesex East) Ross (Moose Jaw) Rowe (Athabaska) St-Pere Sanderson Senn Spence Stewart Stirling Sylvestre Taylor (Norfolk) Telford Thauvette Thompson

Nil.

Thorson

Tomlinson

Tremblay

Turgeon

Turner

Tustin

Veniot

Vien

Ward

Warren

Weir

Wermenlinger

White

Winkler

Wood

Woodsworth Young-187.

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LIB

Olof Hanson

Liberal

Mr. HANSON:

Ten days of unnecessary

expense to the Canadian taxpayers.

An lion. MEMBER: What is the hon.

member talking about?

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LIB
CON

Robert James Manion (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MANION:

Why did the hon. member not make a speech when he could?

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CON
LIB

CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS

APPOINTMENT OF GEORGE A. TOUCHE AND COMPANY AS AUDITORS


Hon. C. D. HOWE (Minister of Transport) moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 22, respecting the appointment of auditors for the Canadian National Railways.


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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Explain.

Graydon

Green

Hamilton

Hansell

Hanson

Harris

Hartigan

Hayhurst

Heaps

Hill

Homuth

Howe

Hurtubise

Hyndman

Ilsley

Isnor

Jaques

Jean

Johnston (Bow River) J ohnston

(Lake Centre) Kennedy King, Mackenzie Kirk Kuhl Lalonde Landeryou

Michaud

Mills

Mullins

Muloek

Mutch

Needham

Neill

O'Neill

Parent (Quebec West and South)

Parent (Terrebonne)

Patterson

Pelletier

Perley

Pinard

Poole

Pettier

Power

Purdy

Quelch

Raymond

Reid

Rennie

Rheaume

Rickard

Rinfret

Robichaud

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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

This is the annual bill providing for the appointment of auditors for the Canadian National Railways. It is in exactly the same form as that of last year.

Motion agreed to and bill read the first time.

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DOMINION ELECTIONS ACT REPEAL OF SECTION 106 OF ACT OF 1938


Mr. ROBERT FAIR (Battle River) moved for leave to introduce Bill No. 23, to amend the Dominion Elections Act, 1938.


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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Explain.

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SC

Robert Fair

Social Credit

Mr. FAIR:

The bill provides for the

repeal of section 106 of the Dominion Elections Act, 1938. The effect of this section which was enacted last year, is to deprive electors of any control over the members whom they send to parliament.

Business oj the House

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February 13, 1939