June 24, 1938

LIB

Malcolm McLean

Liberal

Mr. McLEAN (Melfort):

Why penalize

the electors elsewhere just because there is a fear of somebody being influenced?

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART:

There is no desire to

penalize anybody. In the maritimes they are given one hour later, which in many instances is considered an advantage. In Ontario the polls close, under the provincial act, at seven o'clock. The hours of polling in the different provinces for provincial elections vary considerably. In some provinces the polls close at five; in others, at six; in others, at seven.

There was an earnest desire in the committee to overcome the abuse that has been experienced by both political parties, and as I have said, a compromise was reached on the part of British Columbia and on the part of the maritimes. I think we ought not to lose sight of the general principle. Is it desirable that the election results in Nova Scotia should be telegraphed to British Columbia to the possible disadvantage of any political party in British Columbia? If that is not desirable, what is the remedy? Here we have the remedy that commended itself to the committee after all the other sugges*

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tions had been, weighed, and the committee was practically unanimous-I think there were only three opposed to it-in arriving at this conclusion after a careful and exhaustive consideration of the whole question.

It may be a matter primarily for British Columbia, but at the same time it undoubtedly affects the whole dominion. We are all interested in it whether we are inconvenienced or not; and if the maritime provinces feel that possibly they are giving up something, and if British Columbia is called upon to give up something we ought to be prepared to do that in the interests of Canada if the object to be accomplished is a worthy one. I put it to every member of this committee, and I do not care what the political effect is in this election or the next election, Is it desirable that any person or organization in one province for purely partisanship purposes should be able to send out to British Columbia either accurate or inaccurate information about the election results, for the purpose of influencing the vote in that or some other province. If the committee thinks it is desirable to leave the matter wide open and to permit the repetition of what has occurred on two occasions, once to the advantage of one party and once to the advantage of another, then possibly there should be no change. But after a careful study the committee came to the conclusion almost unanimously that it was desirable to prevent that situation, and in order to accomplish it the committee agreed upon this compromise. If there is any other way of doing it, let us hear it. Let us not dismiss this as a matter of trivial concern or of merely local convenience. It is of interest to the whole of Canada. What we want is clean elections. We want elections that are not influenced improperly by messages sent from one part of Canada to another.

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Mr. POAVER@

I doubt if there is any possibility of our coming to an agreement on this clause to-night, so I would ask that it stand.

Section stands.

Sections 32 to 45 inclusive agreed to.

On section 46-Vote by elector whose name is not entered in the official list of electors for a rural polling division.

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IND

Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. NEILL:

This section ought to be allowed to stand for consideration with section 14, because the same thing applies, the words "ordinarily resident." The explanatory note on the right hand page says, "no change," which is not correct; there is a change.

Section stands.

On section 47-Time to employees for voting.

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CCF

Charles Grant MacNeil

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacNEIL:

Would the minister agree to allow this section to stand?

Section stands.

Section 48 agreed to.

On section 49-Strangers not to enter polling districts armed.

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IND

Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. NEILL:

In regard to flags, the old section covered just during the polling. If people want to run around and celebrate after an election, I do not see why they should not have all the banners they want. This only means that some unhappy man will be punished for not knowing the law.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

The objection I think is well taken. Let subsection 4 stand for correction.

Section stands.

On section 50-Counting and reporting the votes.

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Charles Grant MacNeil

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacNEIL:

Should this section not stand so that we might give consideration to the idea advanced by the hon. member for Vancouver South (Mr. Green) about holdings the boxes for two hours at certain points?

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Mr. POAVER@

Frankly, without being in the least facetious, I do not think it would be possible to hold the ballot boxes in a polling: booth anywhere in eastern Canada for two hours after the polls had closed. It would be asking too much of people's patience and placing too much reliance on the impartiality of the people of the maritimes-and even of Quebec-to ask them not to get the results of the polls the minute they can be announced.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

I am in sympathy with, those who suggested the amendment. I think, the minister might consider the suggestion. I take it that the people of Great Britain are just as impatient as Canadians, and there they hold the ballot boxes from the counties until the next day. They all come to a centra! point the morning after the election.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

I think it would be very difficult not to give the results of the polling,, say on the island of Cape Breton, within fifteen minutes after the ballots are counted.. However, I am content to let the section stand.

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Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

It might be a good way to-help the people of eastern Canada to realize-the extent of this nation, if the boxes were-held.

Section stands.

Sections 51 to 55 inclusive agreed to.

Loan Companies Act

On section 56-Election returns.

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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

The minister might let section 56 stand for the same reason as some others were left.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

No; this is a return made by the returning officer six days after the election.

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Section agreed to. Sections 59 to 111 inclusive agreed to. Schedules 1, 2 and 3 agreed to. Progress reported.


FARMERS' CREDITORS ARRANGEMENT ACT

BOARDS OF REVIEW, TIME LIMIT FOR FILING PROPOSALS, ETC.-FREE CONFERENCE WITH SENATE IN VIEW OF AMENDMENTS

LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Prime Minister; Secretary of State for External Affairs; President of the Privy Council)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Prime Minister) moved:

Resolved that Messrs. Crerar, Euler, Ilsley and McLean (Melfort) be appointed managers on behalf of this house of the free conference with the senate with respect to the amendments made to Bill No. 25, intituled: An act to amend the Farmers' Creditors Arrangement Act, 1934.

That a message be sent to the senate to acquaint Their Honours therewith.

That the clerk do carry the said message to the senate.

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Motion agreed to. At eleven o'clock the house adjourned, without question put, pursuant to standing order. Monday, June 27, 1938


June 24, 1938