June 6, 1938

IND

Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. NEILL:

That is obtained by some officials appointed by the government?

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LIB
IND

Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. NEILL:

My impression is, speaking from a rather treacherous memory, that the cost would not be very great, I think about $125,000.

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CON
LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

It is vague in my mind, but I remember having seen some such report as my hon. friend speaks of, but it did not emanate from the department; it came from some other source.

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IND

Alan Webster Neill

Independent

Mr. NEILL:

There was a notice in the Vancouver paper that information had been given out from Ottawa that a sum of $5,000 was going to be voted for a survey, and my information is that Mr. Forde, the district engineer, or someone under him, carried out a survey some years ago, and decided that the only practical way to do the work was to run a tunnel from the side under the bed of the Narrows-they had to go some ninety feet deep-and then go up under the rock and blow it up. The cost was estimated at somewhere around $125,000. There seems to be a difference between what is reported in the paper and the minister's statement. The minister says they have all the information they need.

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

I am informed that a board of engineers was appointed and they had a public hearing some years ago. I am informed also that a request was made to the department to provide a further sum to make a survey, but we did not comply with that request because we felt we had all the information required. It was only a case of deciding whether or not we would do the work.

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Item agreed to. Maintenance and operation of roads and bridges-Burlington channel bridge, $16,000.


CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

Why are six additional bridge men necessary?

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

I am informed that the staff has not been increased, but that some temporary employees have been made permanent.

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John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

The list on page 185 of the estimates shows six more men for 1938-39 than for 1937-38.

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

As temporary employees their names do not appear in the estimates.

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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

Surely it does not take eleven men to operate the Burlington bridge.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART:

I notice that last year the temporary assistance was $4,320, and this year it is $500. Is the explanation that those temporary assistants have been appointed permanently?

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LIB

Pierre-Joseph-Arthur Cardin (Minister of Public Works)

Liberal

Mr. CARDIN:

These employees were paid as temporary, and now they are being made permanent. The number of men is the same; there has been no increase.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART:

Are they appointed by the civil service commission?

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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

Does that mean that eleven men are employed to operate the Burlington bridge?

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June 6, 1938