May 20, 1938

CON

Grote Stirling

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STIRLING:

I should like to ask one more question about the Big Bend road. Is British Columbia contributing any portion of the cost on the west side?

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CON

Grote Stirling

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STIRLING:

It is entirely borne by the dominion government?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

That expense is borne by the federal government.

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CON
LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

My recollection is that the arrangement was made by the late government to build the west leg. The original arrangement was made when my right hon. leader was Prime Minister previously, to build the east leg, and the provincial government is bearing no part of the cost of construction. Under the agreement, when the road is constructed it will be taken over by the provincial government, and of course thereafter the cost of maintenance will be their responsibility.

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

No; from Golden to

Revelstoke.

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

No; we did not undertake the obligation to build the portion of the road from the west gate of the park to Golden. The original arrangement covered from Donald to the crossing of the Canoe river. Later, that was extended to cover the portion between Golden and Donald. Then, during the administration of the present right hon. leader of the opposition the arrangement with British Columbia was extended to cover the portion of the road from the crossing at Canoe river down to Revelstoke, and the expense of that construction is being wholly borne by the federal government.

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Vincent-Joseph Pottier

Liberal

Mr. POTTIER:

Since some of the discussion on this item has developed in connection with points of interest having particular reference to historical spots, I want to bring to the attention of the minister a place in western Nova Scotia where it is claimed the first white man landed in North America. There are records in the old country describing the voyage and the shore where the landing was made, and that description exactly fits this location in western Nova Scotia. We also have a runic stone, where they are supposed to have landed, bearing an inscription which they marked at the time. According to the records, that landing is presumed to have been in the year 1006, the first landing of the Norsemen in North America, actually the first white men to come here from Europe. I have no doubt that the development of a place of that kind would prove a spot of historical interest, and would help develop the tourist trade.

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Item agreed to. Administration of Migratory Birds Convention Act, $51,000.


LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

This item has to do with the administration of the migratory birds convention between Canada and the United States. In the present year there is a slight increase in the vote. I assume at least part of that is due to the restoration of the salary cuts and to the ordinary statutory increases in salaries. I believe there was the appointment of one additional stenographer. That is an expense which under the Migratory Birds Convention Act we are obligated to carry out.

Supply-Migratory Birds

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Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

I have no fault to find with the vote, but the report has got about in British Columbia that there is a chance of the administration of this act being turned over to the provinces. I have a protest from an angling and game association in Vancouver against the administration being turned over to the provinces. I hope there is no question of that being done.

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Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

The hon. member's remarks are the first I have heard to that effect. I can assure him there is no intention of doing anything of the kind. As a matter of fact, 1 do not think we could turn over to a province the administration of an international obligation with the United States.

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROSS (St. Paul's):

It has been called to my attention that last year two or three hunters got into trouble through lack of knowledge of the law. We realize, of course, that is no excuse. The laws with respect to duck shooting were published by the province of Ontario. There are also certain variations or extensions in the law which are made under the Migratory Birds Convention Act. I understand the regulations are posted up by the federal government, but it is very difficult for a hunter to look on the telegraph posts to find out what those regulations may be. Could some arrangement not be made between the provincial and federal governments for the combining of the provincial and federal laws?

I should also like to learn how the enforcement of the act is carried out. Do the provinces do it; is it a combination between the provinces and the dominion, or is it done by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police?

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Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

In most provinces the regulations agreed upon by the federal and provincial authorities are enforced by the province. There are certain cases where enforcement is carried out by the mounted police. We aim to get cooperation with the provinces, and have been very successful in that regard. The regulations framed from year to year govern particularly the hunting of wild fowl. We have not run into any difficulty in connection with the administration of the act. I think almost everyone from one end of Canada to the other is seized with the importance of preserving the migratory birds. I might point out further that opinion in the United States has crystallized into a more strict enforcement of regulations than obtained several years ago. I believe they are now doing their full share.

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Douglas Gooderham Ross

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROSS (St. Paul's):

Is there any danger from the shooting of ducks and other types

of game which takes place in James bay? In the minds of some people there seems to be a certain amount of apprehension with respect to the preservation of ducks and other types of wild fowl. They feel that the hunting in the feeding grounds in James bay will have a serious effect on the wild fowl population.

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Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

That matter has been discussed with the Ontario authorities; but, for the greater part, I believe the migratory birds go farther north for nesting and rearing their young. I am informed that the James bay situation, to which the hon. member has just referred, is being discussed between the Ontario government and the federal department.

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Alfred Johnson Brooks

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BROOKS:

Were any new bird sanctuaries established during the past year?

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May 20, 1938