May 4, 1938

LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Is the hon. member's farm seeded?

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CON

Ernest Edward Perley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PERLEY:

Yes, sir. I told them to get the seed in. That is the only policy-get it in the first day you can in order to derive the benefit of the splendid rains we have had.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

It is not the only policy.

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CON

Ernest Edward Perley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PERLEY:

I say that seventy per cent of the land that will be seeded to wheat could have been seeded before the 25th of April had the seed been available, and I stake my experience in that regard certainly against that of the hon. member for Melfort.

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LIB

Malcolm McLean

Liberal

Mr. McLEAN (Melfort):

On the 10th or lltth of April, in passing through the territory represented by the hon. member for Qu'Appelle, I saw not a sign of any work having been done on the land anywhere in the Qu'Appelle or Wolseley district. I bow to my hon. friend's superior knowledge of sopae phases of farming but not in my desire to present a true picture to the committee. I would say that it is not yet too late to sow seed. In the next thirty days plenty of seed will be sown in Saskatchewan if other conditions are satisfactory and likely to produce good crops.

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CON

Ernest Edward Perley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PERLEY:

Why were the farmers not on the land?

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Because it was not fit to go on.

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CON

Ernest Edward Perley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PERLEY:

Because they had not any feed to feed their horses. Fifty per cent of the farmers in the district I speak of had not enough feed to give their horses two good feeds of hay; the horses were not in a condition to go on the land until they did get feed and fodder, and in that district it was not released until about the 15th of April.

Relief and Agricultural Distress

Mr. MoLEAN (Melfort): Not even on the gravelled highways were many cars running on that day, and it was a very fine day.

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An hon. MEMBER:

Hire a hall.

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LIB

Malcolm McLean

Liberal

Mr. McLEAN (Melfort):

The people who sent me here have paid their share of this hall for me to speak in, but I really think my hon. friend's remarks were addressed to his colleague behind him (Mr. Perley).

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CON

Ernest Edward Perley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. PERLEY:

I have not taken up as much time as you have.

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LIB

Malcolm McLean

Liberal

Mr. McLEAN (Melfort):

The hon. member has taken up three times as much of the time of the house as I have, and he has used up a good deal of paper in putting partisan complaints on the record, which I think everyone will admit is something of which I have not been guilty. But when, even in fine weather, cars cannot run on the highways because of too much moisture, it is certain that implements cannot work satisfactorily on the land.

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weybum):

The hon.

member for Melfort is going from the particular to the general. He cannot say that seeding has been delayed in Saskatchewan generally because of weather conditions. From the 11th to the 23rd of April I travelled by car through the southern part of the province from Moosomin to Swift Current, and the horses were not in fit condition. That is why thejr were not on the land.

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LIB

Malcolm McLean

Liberal

Mr. McLEAN (Melfort):

What about tractors?

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

But even if we assume that snow and rain had kept the farmers off the land, the seed should be available so that the moment they can get on the land they can put the seed in. I went through most of the constituency of the minister, through Wood Mountain and Swift Current districts, and not more than half a dozen towns had the seed in the town ready for distribution. In the other towns the seed was not there.

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An hon. MEMBER:

Did you have seed in Swift Current?

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

Yes, but it had not been released.

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LIB

Malcolm McLean

Liberal

Mr. McLEAN (Melfort):

Perhaps the

horses had not been able to go for the seed because they were so thin.

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS (Weyburn):

The hon. member for Melfort says that orders for seed had been given. They had been given for a

month in my constituency, but there is not any seed. You must have seed; you cannot sow the orders.

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LIB

Malcolm McLean

Liberal

Mr. McLEAN (Melfort):

In the distric* of which I spoke there was plenty of seed for which orders had been given out.

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May 4, 1938