April 4, 1938

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

He did not say that, so far as I can recall. What he said is on the record, without being paraphrased by the hon. gentleman.

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

Well, I have no desire to paraphrase the statements of the right hon. gentleman.

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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

I rise to a point of order, Mr. Chairman. Which recommendation is the minister discussing now?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

I am dealing with the

unemployment question, and I propose to refer to what has been accomplished by this government and under this government with respect to the expansion of trade and the increase of employment which has come through the expansion of trade.

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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

That will keep us here till next August!

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An hon. MEMBER:

Yes. We do the job.

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

Notwithstanding the decline in cereal exports due to the poor harvest of last year, Canada has maintained her position among the countries of the world as the fourth largest exporter during 1937. I am now going to place upon Hansard some of the effects of the trade policies of this administration so that it may be clear to one who reads, that in those policies there has been an expansion of trade, and, on the basis of that expansion in trade, a resultant increase of industrial activity in this dominion.

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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

A contraction of employment in Canada.

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

Total trade: exports,

calendar year, 1935, $825,284,114; calendar year 1937, $1,110,192,151. I should like to point out particularly the increase in the exports to the United States. In the calendar year 1935 the exports were $358,569,736. They increased in 1937 to $470,181,046. I could go

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right down through the list of countries with which this government has arranged trade treaties and point to a marked and continuing improvement in exports from Canada to those countries. It may be and indeed it has been said on occasion that the trade with the United States would have occurred whether or not there had been a reciprocity agreement. That suggestion has been controverted time and time again in this house, but I think it. may be useful at this time to indicate exactly the manner in which our trade with the United States has increased.

I deal with domestic exports from Canada to the United States for the twelve months ending December 31, 1935, 1936 and 1937, and I shall take, first, items subject to reduction in rate of duty:

1935 $35,723,003

1936 59,281,878

1937 64,582,861

In other words, there has been a steady expansion, an increase of 80 per cent in 1937 as compared with 1935. The next is items bound by a low rate:

1935 $3,482,351

1936 4.751,407

1937 2,744,964

Next I take items bound to free entry:

1935 $129,813,279

1936 152,775,607

1937 189,350,813

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The minister is of course aware of the fact that the president could not make any item that was on the free list dutiable. Therefore, so far as free entries are concerned, they must have continued.

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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Congress could have

changed it.

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

The Minister of Finance has given the answer to the question. Congress could have changed it. At all events, what I am giving the leader of the opposition and the committee is the actual effect on trade between the United States and Canada flowing from the reciprocity agreement concluded by this administration.

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CCF

Abraham Albert Heaps

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. HEAPS:

May I ask a question?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

May I be allowed to continue? I shall be under questioning before the committee, I know, and I am fully prepared for it.

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CCF

Abraham Albert Heaps

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. HEAPS:

But we did not expect this part to come in.

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

Perhaps I surprised my hon. friend in that respect. The totals of the figures I have given are:

1935 $169,018,633

1936 216,808,892

1937 256,678,638

Relief and Agricultural Distress

I suggest to the committee that these figures carry the implication-

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CON

Alexander McKay Edwards

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. EDWARDS:

Will the minister give the imports of manufactured goods from the United States?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

I do not have them for the same period, but I am sure my hon. friend can secure them from the bureau of statistics.

I may be able to get them myself for the hon. gentleman.

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CON

Alexander McKay Edwards

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. EDWARDS:

It is one-way trade.

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

As a matter of fact, I would not be disturbed by increasing imports from the United States. I want to see what those imports are, and if my hon. friend will examine them item by item I suggest he will find that the increase in imports was due in very large measure to raw materials, goods that were used by our manufacturers. At any rate I make that prediction, and. I say that they will form a substantial item in the imports from the United States. So much for the increase in trade which has taken place as a result of the trade policies pursued by this administration. No one can read these figures without realizing that this increase in trade has meant increased employment. It could not mean anything else.

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April 4, 1938