March 3, 1938

CON

William Earl Rowe

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. ROWE (Dufferin-Simcoe):

There are grants for seed grain.

Topic:   SASKATCHEWAN SCHOOLS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO ALLOCATION OF RELIEF FUNDS AS EMERGENCY GRANTS
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LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

My objection is to

singling out a particular class to get special consideration.

Topic:   SASKATCHEWAN SCHOOLS
Subtopic:   INQUIRY AS TO ALLOCATION OF RELIEF FUNDS AS EMERGENCY GRANTS
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OPIUM AND NARCOTIC DRUG ACT


Hon. C. G. POWER (Minister of Pensions and National Health) moved the third reading of Bill No. 24, to amend the Opium and Narcotic Drug Act, 1929. Motion agreed to and bill read the third time and passed.


INSPECTION AND SALE

PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES


The house resumed from Tuesday, March 1, consideration in committe of Bill No. 30, to regulate the inspection and sale of binder twine and salt, and to establish weight of bushel for certain commodities commonly sold by the bushel-Mr. Gardiner-Mr. Johnston (Lake Centre) in the chair.


LIB

John Frederick Johnston (Deputy Chair of Committees of the Whole)

Liberal

The DEPUTY CHAIRMAN:

This bill

was before the committee a few days ago, and upon that occasion certain sections were allowed to stand.

On section 4-analysts and inspectors.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Hon. J. G. GARDINER (Minister of Agriculture) :

The first subsection standing is

paragraph (b) of section 4. On inquiry of the department I am given to understand that while they would prefer to have subsection (b) remain in the bill, if the committee considers it advisable to drop it, there would be no objection. The leader of the opposition raised an objection to that subsection.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I still think it is unsound.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

I would agree to its

being deleted.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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Mr ROGERS:

I would move that subsection (b) of section 4 be deleted.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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Amendment agreed to. Section 4 as amended agreed to. On section 6-Labels on binder twine for sale in Canada.


LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

I move:

That subsection 2 of section 6 be deleted and the following substituted therefor:

"Binder twine manufactured for export only and not to be sold for use in Canada need not be so labelled, but the onus of proof that any unlabelled binder twine is manufactured for export only shall rest upon the dealer, carrier or other person in whose possession the binder tw'ine is found."

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I think that meets the

difficulty.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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Amendment agreed to.


CON

Mark Cecil Senn

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SENN:

Is the minister satisfied to

allow the onus as to alleged infringement to rest upon the retail dealer?

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

That was the point

raised, and on going into the matter with the officials of the department I found that they had in mind the fact that to-day a good deal of binder twine moves by truck. They were taking out the word "carrier," but I

Inspection and Sale Act

personally drew attention to the fact that that might be a very dangerous thing to do with so much twine being carried by truck. All this subsection says is that where a person is found carrying or has in his possession binder twine of this particular class, then he must show that it is going into export. We are trying to avoid the possibility of a carrier loading up twine, say at Saskatoon, heading towards the American boundary and then peddling it along the way. Under this subsection any officer would have the right to compel a person in whose possession binder twine is found to submit proof that the twine is going into export and is not being sold locally.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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CON

Mark Cecil Senn

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SENN:

I do not think the minister

gets my point. I was referring to subsection 1, which provides that the dealer shall be responsible for the number of feet in a ball and for seeing that it is correctly labelled, and that all the other requirements of the act are complied with. The dealer may be a retail merchant who would not know whether the twine was going to run six hundred feet to the pound, or whether it would be more than five per cent short. If twine is found in his possession that is over five per cent short, under this act he would be liable to a fine. I submit it would be practically impossible for a local dealer to discover that.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

We discussed this point in connection with the penalty section, and finally came to the conclusion that there was no other way of dealing with the matter. While what the hon. member has said may be perfectly true, that a person who has twine in his possession cannot be certain of its length without measuring the twine, on the other hand a manufacturer cannot be certain that the individual who has the twine in his possession did not cut off a hundred feet. All that such a man would have to do would be to take the tag off the end of the twine, run off a hundred feet, cut it off and put the tag on again. It would not be fair to say that such an individual should not have some responsibility if action were taken. This section has been in its present form for many years, and, as I pointed out the other day, the penalty in connection with the tolerance of five per cent has been there since 1907.

Topic:   INSPECTION AND SALE
Subtopic:   PROPOSED REGULATIONS RESPECTING BINDER TWINE, SALT AND OTHER COMMODITIES
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March 3, 1938