February 11, 1938

CCF

James Shaver Woodsworth

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. WOODSWORTH:

The minister has admitted that from a practical standpoint the scope of this bill is not very great. Could the minister give us some information as to what ships of Canadian registry are now engaged in the transatlantic or transpacific trade?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

We have two ships on the west coast from Vancouver to the Philippines and China and Japan, and we have a fleet between Canada and the West Indies on the east coast. That is all that occurs to me at the moment.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Are they on Canadian registry?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

Yes, the two Canadian Pacific ships are. The two running to Australia are on Australian registry.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

And those on the Atlantic are on British registry?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

Yes.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

Could the minister tell us how this could be used in respect to the fighting in China? For instance, could the Empress boats out of Vancouver be prevented from carrying munitions from the Philippines to Hongkong?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

The two ships registered in Canada could be prevented from carrying munitions or supplies, anything that the governor in council designated as prohibited material.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

Could they also be prevented from carrying from, say Manila to Hongkong?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

Yes, that is really the purpose of the bill. There are other ways of preventing those ships from carrying munitions from

Canada to China; they could be prevented under the Customs Act. But this amendment would give us power to prohibit those ships from carrying from Manila to China.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

So that when this amendment goes through the government will have power to prevent shipment of munitions from Vancouver to China?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

Exactly. We have that power now.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Not under this section but under the Customs Act.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

Yes, under the Customs Act.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CCF

Major James William Coldwell

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. COLDWELL:

Do I understand that the two ships referred to on the Pacific are the Canadian Pacific Empress boats?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

They are the Empress of Russia and the Empress of Asia.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CCF

Abraham Albert Heaps

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. HEAPS:

Have we the power to prohibit the shipment of arms from Canadian ports to any country that we wish?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

Any country where a conflict is taking place and which the governor in council may designate as a prohibited area.

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

Then there is no question that under the present act it would be possible for the government to prevent shipment of arms and munitions to China?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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LIB

Clarence Decatur Howe (Minister of Transport)

Liberal

Mr. HOWE:

From Canada?

Topic:   WAYS AND MEANS
Subtopic:   CANADA SHIPPING ACT, 1934 CONTROL OF SHIPMENT OF MUNITIONS BY SHIPS REGISTERED IN CANADA
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February 11, 1938