April 9, 1937

LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE (Quebec East):

Not yet.

Topic:   DOUKHOBOR DISTURBANCES
Subtopic:   DESTRUCTION OF PUBLIC PROPERTY IN BRITISH COLUMBIA
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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

-and see if it is not a matter of such national importance that he might provide assistance of a permanent character to prevent a recurrence of these terrible outrages against decency, so that law and order may in some way be maintained.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe (Minister of Justice and Attorney General of Canada)

Liberal

Hon. ERNEST LAPOINTE (Minister of Justice):

Mr. Speaker, I fully realize the

seriousness of the situation described by the hon. member (Mr. Esling) and the leader of the opposition (Mr. Bennett). 'I may say that if our assistance is asked by the British Columbia authorities I shall be pleased to submit the matter to the government, with my support and recommendation. It seems to

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me to be one of the serious cases where a province may ask that the dominion police assist in upholding the law.

Up to the present time there has been no official request for our assistance from the province of British Columbia, but I assure the hon. member that no doubt, in view of his remarks to-day, the request will come in due course. I shall be pleased to submit to my colleagues the observations he has made, and I think I may say that we will help in the matter all we can.

The house in committee of supply, Mr. Sanderson in the chair.

Topic:   DOUKHOBOR DISTURBANCES
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DEPARTMENT OF LABOUR


To provide for commitments under relief settlement agreements with provincial governments, $400,000.


CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Does this vote cover

existing obligations?

Hon. NORMAN McL. ROGERS (Minister of Labour).: This item consists in part of

existing obligations under relief settlement agreements with the provinces and in part of anticipated new obligations under the present agreements. Perhaps I could explain that in this way. The agreements provide for continuing payments to those who have been settled under the previous agreements and also for new settlements of families falling within the terms of the agreements. Therefore we are providing in part for expenditures to which we are committed and in part for anticipated expenditures during the coming year.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

To what extent is this

item referable to over-expenditures under existing agreements and to contemplated payment of new obligations?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

There are no over-expenditures. It is a continuing contribution to the provinces which have agreements with the dominion government for relief settlements. If the leader of the opposition desires, I can place on Hansard the distribution of the money among the provinces. In 1936 Quebec received $12.200; Ontario, $1,400; Manitoba, $69,500; Saskatchewan. $10,000; Alberta, $55,500; British Columbia, $1,400, making a total of $150,000. The new commitments total $250,000, making a grand total of $400,000.

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Item agreed to. To provide for federal contribution to provincial and municipal relief projects, $7,331,000.


CCF

Abraham Albert Heaps

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. HEAPS:

Would the minister give us a breakdown of this item?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

This total amount is broken down as follows. First, revote for claims to be rendered by the provinces under previous agreements which will not be received by the dominion in time to be paid before the close of the present fiscal year, $1,316,117.75. Second, revote for the continuation of works authorized under previous agreements which will not be completed at the expiration of said agreements on March 31, 1937, $514,269.04. Third, provision for new projects for relief measures during 1937-38, $5,500,000.

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CON

Thomas Langton Church

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CHURCH:

What percentage will be provided for the municipalities?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

That is a matter to be determined when we negotiate the agreements with the various provinces. It is not possible in advance of our consultation with the provincial governments to indicate definitely what percentage will be allocated for works in the municipalities.

Mr. MaeINNIS: Would such works as the forestry camps in British Columbia come under this item?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

They would come under another item which I will indicate when it is reached.

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CON

Norman James Macdonald Lockhart

Conservative (1867-1942)

*Mr. LOCKHART:

Would the work in connection with highway No. 8, to which I referred the other day, be included in this item?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

I am advised by the officers of the department that that is not included in the list of the joint projects provided for under the last agreement with the province of Ontario.

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CON

Norman James Macdonald Lockhart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LOCKHART:

Is any portion of the cost of this highway being provided by the dominion government?

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

That is the information I receive from the officers of the department.

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CON

Harry James Barber

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARBER:

There is considerable variation in the wages paid in the different municipalities for relief work. I had a letter the other day from a man who has been employed on relief work for three years and he tells me that he has received only S20 a month, and he has to pay $10 a month for rent. I understand that this particular municipality is receiving contributions on a fifty-fifty basis from the two governments. Is there not some way by which wages could be regulated so that they would be more nearly uniform? I do not know of two municipalities in my part of the country that pay the same rate.

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LIB

Norman McLeod Rogers (Minister of Labour)

Liberal

Mr. ROGERS:

I would judge my hon.

friend has in mind relief work being done within a municipality in the province of British Columbia?

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April 9, 1937