February 26, 1937

LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

At the present time probational training really comes down to this: If an ex-soldier comes to us and says that if he had the requisite training he would be able to find a position in a certain industry, and we are assured by the employer that that is so, we find means to give him the necessary training and to pay him while he is receiving it. Of late years, however, very little of that has been carried on. Last year we had only two or three who applied and were accepted.

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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

Is that only for pensioners or is that privilege available to non-pensioners?

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

I am quite sure it is only for pensioners. For instance, to indicate what we try to do, at the present time, we are training a man to be a bootmaker. He is the only one we happen to have on the strength at the present time.

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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

Would it not be possible to extend that privilege to the younger unemployed veterans who have registered with the veterans' assistance commission? There may be quite a number of them who could be put into positions if they had a certain amount of training.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

If the veterans' assistance commission make a report to the minister along that line I shall be glad to go into it thoroughly. In fact, at the present time in Montreal the association known as Workshops Limited does intend to go in for something of the kind. As the hon. member is no doubt aware, it is a voluntary organization of ex-soldiers formed under the aegis of the voluntary committee in Montreal. On recommendation of the veterans' assistance commission the amount of $15,000 has been granted.

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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

The minister will be prepared to assist in training of that type?

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

Yes.

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CCF

Angus MacInnis

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. MacINNIS:

Some time ago I had

protests from some of the orderlies in Shaugh-nessy hospital as to the long hours of duty. Some of them work twelve or thirteen hours each day. I believe the same conditions prevail in some of the other hospitals. Have the hours of work been reduced, or is there any hope that they may be reduced shortly?

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

I think the matter will be settled within a short time. It is now the subject of conversation and discussions with the amalgamated civil servants, and others. Of course, under certain circumstances, it would involve increasing the staff, but not to a very great extent. I do not doubt that within a month or so arrangements satisfactory to the people interested will be made.

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CON

Norman James Macdonald Lockhart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LOCKHART:

I have in mind a pensioner recently changed from the regular pay staff, who is now occupying a bed in' one of the hospitals. He has had many misgivings concerning the possible cures which may be effected by the experimental work now under way. The man may leave the hospital, under a nominal pension, to go out

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into the world. If in three or four years he suffers a recurrence of some form of his old trouble is there any limitation as to the time within which he would become disqualified for further hospitalization?

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

I take it the person in

question has a pension, although he claims it is not sufficiently large.

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CON
LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

There is no doubt that he may return at any time, and his pension will be increased if it is found that the disabilities from which he is suffering have increased. That is probably one of the reasons why our pension expenditures are not decreasing very rapidly. Men pensioned for disability or disease get increased pensions as their disabilities increase. A man may receive a pension of ten per cent or twenty per cent for a heart or rheumatic condition, but as time goes on and he becomes older his disability increases, and with it his pension.

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CON

Norman James Macdonald Lockhart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LOCKHART:

This man is still in the hospital. He has observed cases which have left the hospital apparently cured, while others have had difficulty in getting back into the hospital on the basis they think should obtain. He has written me on several occasions, and I should like to be able to assure him that in the event of his leaving the hospital in the near future he will receive every consideration.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

If the hon. member will be good enough to give me privately the name of the person in whom he is interested, I will get a full report and Let him know definitely what the situation is.

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CON

Norman James Macdonald Lockhart

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. LOCKHART:

I shall be glad to do so.

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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

In connection with proba-tional training, would it not be of some help if the minister were to write to the honorary local committees stating that the department would be willing to provide probational training for suitable unemployed veterans?

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

I do not know that it is my duty, nor would it be proper for me as minister of the department, to write the honorary local committees telling them what they should or should not do.

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CON

Howard Charles Green

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GREEN:

No, but I suggest that the minister could tell them that there is that chance of obtaining help. They may not know about it.

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LIB

Charles Gavan Power (Minister of Pensions and National Health)

Liberal

Mr. POWER:

I should be glad to draw it

to the attention of the veterans' assistance commission, but I do not think it -would be

proper for me to indicate to the committees the line they should follow. They are appointed for that purpose, and are devoting a great deal of time and energy to the work. I believe if it is drawn to their attention in any way, even through the mention of it on this occasion by the hon. member, within a short time that field will be explored and there will be reports upon it.

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February 26, 1937