February 26, 1937

LIB

David James Hartigan

Liberal

Mr. HARTIGAN:

Is the fuel testing department supplied with money sufficient to enable it to go on with the experiments? If there is a lack of money, then I say a sufficient amount should be set aside to permit it to proceed with the work. A satisfactory solution of the difficulty would be worth millions of dollars to Canada.

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I should not want the hon. member to get the impression that there is a shortage of funds in this connection. The matter is really a research problem and I have no doubt that some day the scientists will discover a method whereby that substance can be taken from the coal.

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CON

Gordon Graydon

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GRAYDON:

Near Campbell's Cross, which is in my riding, is a bromine well which has attracted considerable attention. We have been informed that this is perhaps the only well capable of producing bromine in a particular chemical state. Could the minister advise whether or not there are other wells in eastern Canada with a sufficient commercial productive capacity to compete with this one?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

I am afraid I cannot answer fully the question directed to me by my hon. friend. I believe he could get the information he desires by inquiring of the technical officers in the mines branch. I was unaware that there was a well of that type in his favoured district and I am at a loss to state at the moment whether there are other wells of a similar kind in eastern Canada. My deputy tells me that he is not aware of any. I shall be glad to get this information for my hon. friend or he can inquire of the technical officers who, I think, can satisfy him.

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CON

Gordon Graydon

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GRAYDON:

I understand this is the only bromine producer in the eastern part of Canada and I thought t'he minister would have soime information. I shall be very glad to inquire of the officials of the branch.

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

As far as our information goes, that is the only well in eastern Canada.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Could the minister give us the location and the equipment of the different research laboratories connected with this department?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

There is only one associated with the mines branch, the one located on

Booth street. Experimental work is carried on in connection with the properties of coal and also in connection with the metallurgical processes best adapated to the treatment of certain ores. This laboratory has done excellent and useful work. Last summer I had an opportunity of visiting a number of large mines in Canada and I was given the voluntary information by different mine managers that the service rendered by this department for many years past had been most valuable.

I do not know whether I mentioned this a year ago, but it is worth repeating; when the representatives from the empire countries were in Ottawa in 1932 to attend the imperial conference, the Premier of Rhodesia visited the laboratory here. They had had trouble in working out a treatment for a certain kind of ore and he arranged to ship several tons here to the mines branch. The technical officers were successful in working out the correct treatment for this ore and as a result of that this mine in Rhodesia has been put into operation. This is a striking illustration of the value of the work being done in these laboratories.

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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

A few days ago I referred to the development of the iron mines at Helen mountain in Algoma. Since that time the Ontario government has voted a subsidy of two cents per unit for the development of this mine. The minister referred a moment ago to the assistance being given to the chromium mine at Collins whereby this government was to pay two-thirds of t)he cost of a road.

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

Yes, by arrangement with the provincial government.

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CON

John Ritchie MacNicol

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MacNICOL:

I was wondering whether the same kind of arrangement could not be made in connection with these iron ore mines at Helen mountain. I believe this vote gives a great return to the country and perhaps the minister could give some aid by way of road assistance, to the development of this mine.

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

Any request to that effect would certainly receive careful consideration, but I would not want to commit myself or the government in connection with bounties, to which the hon. member referred the other night.

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CON

George Halsey Perley

Conservative (1867-1942)

Sir GEORGE PERLEY (Argenteuil):

Is this research laboratory at the service of companies and individuals interested in mining?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

That is correct.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Could the minister give details of this vote and how the increase is accounted for?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

The appropriation of the division of mineral resources is $22,000; for the division of ore dressing and metallurgy, $77,000. This is really the important division in this vote. Then there is $46,000 for fuels and fuel testings and $20,000 for ceramics and road materials. This is to cover a study of road materials, binding materials and so on. There is $5,000 for the chemical division and $43,000 for the mechanical section. There is $41,000 for general administration, printing, the purchase of books and contingencies, and $19,000 for expenses of the dominion fuel board?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Which item is increased over last year?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

The increase of $26,700 is due to some reclassifications which have been made, statutory increases and promotions.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

Not the whole of it?

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LIB

Thomas Alexander Crerar (Minister of Mines and Resources)

Liberal

Mr. CRERAR:

It is due to promotions,

reclassifications, statutory increases and a few new positions created in extending the service.

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February 26, 1937