February 17, 1937

LIB

Robert John Deachman

Liberal

Mr. DEACHMAN:

May I ask if my hon. friend was instructed to ask his question?

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LIB

John Gordon Ross

Liberal

Mr. ROSS (Moose Jaw):

I would say to the hon. member for Mount Royal (Mr. Walsh) that in this party and under this government every man has a right to say what he sees fit, and as for myself I will say what I think is proper whether the government says anything about it or not.

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SC

John Charles Landeryou

Social Credit

Mr. LANDERYOU:

How can the federal government act on the report of the Turgeon commission when provincial governments have jurisdiction over corporations?

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LIB

John Gordon Ross

Liberal

Mr. ROSS (Moose Jaw):

I am not going to lay down the policies of the government; that is for the government itself. But when the facts have been brought out before that commission, they will be turned over to the government, and I have every confidence that the government will act in the interests of the people of Canada in that matter.

There has been talk-and my hon. friend mentions the same thing in his resolution- about disruption of the country. The other day, speaking in this house, I happened to say that there was more danger of disruption to-day than there ever was before, and one or two of my friends on the other side of the house asked me: Are you saying that as propaganda for that part of the country or do you believe it to be true? I replied: I am not saying it as propaganda at all. I am saying it as a warning to this House of Commons and the country. My hon. friends who sit over in that corner of the house may think they are in this parliament because of their professed policy of social credit. If they think so, or if anyone else in this country thinks that is the case, they are entirely wrong. My hon. friends are sitting in that corner of the house as proof of an economic revolt in western Canada to-day. That is the reason they are there, because of an economic revolt against the old party.

990 COMMONS

Western Canada-Mr. Ross (Moose Jaw)

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CCF

Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas

Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (C.C.F.)

Mr. DOUGLAS:

That is why this government is in office.

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LIB

John Gordon Ross

Liberal

Mr. ROSS (Moose Jaw):

Perhaps, but that is the real reason why my friends are sitting in that corner of the house, because there

is an economic revolt in western Canada.

As one who was born in western Canada, I might give a little of the history of that country. Many people came to western Canada from Ontario, Quebec and the maritime provinces about fifty or fifty-two or fifty-three years ago. They came from all the different constituencies that are represented in this house. They settled in western Canada, and started to develop that part of the dominion. They raised their families there, and their families are still there, but the original settlers who went out from the east are now most of them dead.

What is the racial complexion of western Canada to-day? The main part of the population is composed of the sons and daughters, and the grandsons and granddaughters of the people who came out to western Canada from this part of the country, but remember this, very few of them have ever been back east. Then there are many people who came directly from the British isles, and who know from experience nothing whatever of eastern Canada. There are also many people from the United States, and many others from different parts of Europe. When one gets west of the great lakes, one will find very many people there who have never had an opportunity of associating with the people on this side of the great lakes.

In western Canada to-day a certain feeling is growing amongst the younger people. They walk into a store to purchase something, and they find they have to pay a certain price. They realize that the price is too high, and they ask why. Somebody says: "In order to build industry in Canada." And the young people will ask: "Whereabouts?" The answer will be: "Oh, fifteen hundred or two thousand miles away from where you live, in order to give employment to the people in the east." Then they will ask: "What is all this being done for?" And the reply will be: "To build up Canada." And these young people are saying: "Well, are we not a part of Canada? If we are, where do we come in? What has this to do with us except that we must pay?" And, Mr. Speaker, that is the only portion they have in this "Canada First" policy.

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LIB

John James Kinley

Liberal

Mr. KINLEY:

May I ask the hon. member a question?

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LIB

John Gordon Ross

Liberal

Mr. ROSS (Moose Jaw):

Certainly.

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LIB

John James Kinley

Liberal

Mr. KINLEY:

I was not in the house when the hon. gentlemen made the statement that central Canada had by various means contributed to the ruination of industries in the maritime provinces, and I understand he was asked to name specific instances. I agree with his statement, and I shall be glad to give specific instances, if necessary.

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LIB

John Gordon Ross

Liberal

Mr. ROSS (Moose Jaw):

The hon. gentleman knows that my statement was correct, and there are many who would be willing to support it.

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LIB

John James Kinley

Liberal

Mr. KINLEY:

I just wanted to settle that before six o'clock.

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LIB

John Gordon Ross

Liberal

Mr. ROSS (Moose Jaw):

I was saying, Mr. Speaker, that many of these people had no experience of the east and many of them were thinking to-day that they were not being treated as a part of Canada under the "Canada First" policy. One cannot blame them for endeavouring to fight in every way possible against a situation such as that. After all, we must remember that no British people ever stood for such a thing before, and I do not think British people would ever stand for it.

I do not intend to support this resolution because I think the commission to be set up, which was announced by the Prime Minister (Mr. Mackenzie King) yesterday, will cover the question in all its phases in every part of Canada, and it will be up to the members in that corner of the house as well as the members over here from Saskatchewan and other provinces, along with their governments and others interested, to place before that royal commission the grievances of every part of this dominion, so that we may finally get them straightened out and come to some definite conclusion.

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CON

William Allen Walsh

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. WALSH:

It is six o'clock, Mr. Speaker.

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At six o'clock the house adjourned, without question put, pursuant to standing order. Thursday, February 18, 1937


February 17, 1937