February 12, 1937

LIB

Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

Quote the rule.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The rule?

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LIB
CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

It does not require a

rule. It has been done frequently when there have been questions as to statements, and Hansard has given the words.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Mr. Chairman, when

there is any question with regard to the statement of an hon. member the member has the right in this house, and in any other house in the British Empire, to say what he said and what he intended to say, as a fellow member of this house.

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CON
LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Even when you have

heard it. I have noticed this, that when on one occasion the right hon. the leader of the opposition made a speech-

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

I rise now, if we are

going to talk about order, the Minister of Agriculture is talking about what the leader of the opposition did at some other time. The question of order is whether he did or did not make the statement. The statement of the Minister of Agriculture, which was heard by every hon. member, was made when he began to read from a newspaper purporting to be the Leader-Post of Regina. His statement was that the words contained in the statement were those of the minister.

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

In my opinion the

point of order is not well taken.

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LIB

James Garfield Gardiner (Minister of Agriculture)

Liberal

Mr. GARDINER:

Well, Mr. Chairman,

getting back to where we left the discussion: I was stating that the Minister of Agriculture prior to the time of the appointment of the committee had taken a certain position in relation to this particular matter. Now that the leader of the opposition has called my attention to it, I might say that this newspaper article is so much like what the minister did say in the house at a later date and is so much like the policy that was finally adopted, I have no hesitation in saying that whatever newspaper reporter put this in the press must have had official information, as he says at the beginning of the article.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

He did not even say

that. Here we have a minister with some sense of responsibility rising in his place to state that he assumes the responsibility of saying that a minister made a certain statement.

Farm Rehabilitation Act

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LIB

Frederick George Sanderson (Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole of the House of Commons)

Liberal

The CHAIRMAN:

Is the right hon. leader of the opposition rising to another point of order?

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

It seems to be useless

to raise points of order, but I am raising one.

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

There is no "order"

about this.

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An hon. MEMBER:

There should be.

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CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The point is that we

have a minister, even when his attention is directed to it, attributing to a former minister something which appears in the newspaper and saying that it represents that minister s official opinion.

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Charles Avery Dunning (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Liberal

Mr. DUNNING:

On the point of order, I

assume the Minister of Agriculture has a right to express an opinion as to the veracity of a newspaper article, which is what he is doing.

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Richard Bedford Bennett (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BENNETT:

The Minister of Finance should know better than that. In the British House of Commons he would not be permitted to read the article at all.

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February 12, 1937