January 26, 1937

CON

Harry James Barber

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARBER:

Are the services of any of she officers or guardians being dispensed with?

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

No.

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Item agreed to. Building fishways and clearing rivers, $9,000.


CON

Harry Gladstone Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE (Rosedale):

Will the minister inform us what rivers are being cleared and where the building of fishways is to be done?

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

Wherever it is needed, depending upon the obstructions that may happen to be found, especially in the spring of the year after the run of the ice or logs. If the hon. member wants a list of the rivers upon which money was expended last year, I shall enumerate them.

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CON

Harry Gladstone Clarke

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CLARKE (Rosedale):

It would take ud too much time to give all of them. But where an advance has been made which more than doubles the cost of the work, it would seem to me that there should be something more definite in the minister's explanation.

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

It is for the purpose of building a fishway through certain falls of a river in British Columbia called the Maggie river. The fishway is now under construction.

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CON

Harry James Barber

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BARBER:

Where is that?

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

On the west coast of

Vancouver island.

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LIB

Olof Hanson

Liberal

Mr. HANSON:

Since the government has seen fit in its wisdom to abolish the salmon hatcheries on both the Pacific and the Atlantic coasts, I submit that reasonable consideration should be given the original spawning grounds in the different rivers on both the Atlantic and the Pacific. As a result of correspondence I have had with game and fish

organizations I can assure the government that there is a widespread feeling that in consequence of the abolition of the hatcheries something is necessary for the preservation of the fish, and that attention should be given the original spawning grounds. I have not thought it advisable so far to bring this matter to the attention of the government, but I would urge upon the minister that he give reasonable consideration to any suggestions which may be made in connection with the original spawning grounds on the Atlantic and the Pacific coasts. No doubt the hatcheries were originally established to assist the spawning grounds, but since it has been decided to discontinue these hatcheries, I think it is wise for the government to consider very carefully any suggestions which come from those familiar with the subject in regard to the original spawning grounds of salmon. Years ago in certain districts trees were plentiful in the vicinity of rivers and creeks, but fire has destroyed them in many places and the trees have fallen into the water, making it practically impossible for the salmon to reach the spawning grounds. I submit that when recommendations come from reliable sources the department should take steps to clear the creeks of these obstacles which prevent the salmon from getting up to the original spawning grounds.

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

Every precaution is being taken to protect the spawning grounds, and I shall be pleased to consider every recommendation or suggestion that may be made to the department.

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CON

Simon Fraser Tolmie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TOLMIE:

From present indications

does it appear that the hatcheries will be permanently discontinued?

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

Just the sockeye hatcheries. We hope it will be possible to make use of those hatcheries that have been in operation for some years for the conservation and propagation of sport fish. At present there is a joint committee of the dominion government and the government of British Columbia studying the problem, and in the meantime some of the hatcheries are being kept open for experimental purposes.

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CON

Simon Fraser Tolmie

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TOLMIE:

In connection with sport

fish?

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

Yes.

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Item agreed to. Supply-Fisheries To assist in the conservation and development of the deep sea fisheries and the demand for fish. $61,000.


CON

Alfred Johnson Brooks

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BROOKS:

I have noticed a good deal of favourable comment, both in the press and ^on the part of the public, on the minister's efforts in trying to increase the demand for fish throughout Canada, and I am sure that^ those efforts are commendable. In connection with conservation, a commission has been investigating the lobster fisheries on the north and west coasts of New Brunswick. Is this item to include the expenses of that investigation? I understand from reports in the newspapers that the boats used for patrol purposes are not capable of coping with the situation; that is, the boats used by those who are illegally fishing lobsters are faster than the patrol boats. Is it the intention of the department to get faster boats for that service and to see that illegal fishing is prohibited in that district? I do not think the fishermen are altogether to blame for the situation which has arisen there. For a great many years they have been suffering great hardships, as indeed they are at the present time. They have not been able to make a livelihood for very many years, nor can they make a livelihood to-day in. that pant of New Brunswick. I said last year- and I believe that my words then are true to-day-that the fishermen there were disappointed in the treaty we -made with the United States. They expected that more provision wrould be made for the sale of our maritime fish in the United States. The great difficulty facing the fishermen in the maritime provinces is the question of markets. I wish to commend the minister for the efforts he has made to secure increased markets -throughout the country and to encourage the people in the larger centres, particularly in central Canada, to eat more fish.

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

In reply to the first question I would say, yes. The cost of the inquiry is to be paid, not out of this vote but out of a similar vote passed last year, because the expenditure is taking place in the present year. Second, I should hesitate to discuss the nature of the evidence which has so far been submitted 'to the commissioner, because it is not yet all complete. The investigation is being carried on by a royal commissioner, a judge of the supreme court, and I should prefer to wait for his report before placing any interpretation on the evidence that has been adduced before him. As regards the criticism that the government boats are not adequate,

I do not believe that has been yet established, but some opinions have been given to that effect. We are satisfied that most of our men

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are efficient and most of our boats are of equal speed to those of the few who defy the regulations and the law. I can assure my hon. friend further that we are going to make some changes in the regulations, which changes will depend upon the report and suggestions of the commission.

Mr. hon. friend referred to the price of the fish to the fishermen. It is true that under the treaty with the United States the concessions were not as great as was expected; notwithstanding that, during the last year our exports of fish to the United States have more than doubled.

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CON

Alfred Johnson Brooks

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BROOKS:

Is that from the maritime provinces, or from the whole of Canada? I know that from British Columbia they have increased, but I understand that from the maritime provinces they have not.

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LIB

Joseph Enoil Michaud (Minister of Fisheries)

Liberal

Mr. MICHAUD:

Oh, yes, the total export of fish to the United States last year was 100 per cent greater, and the same ratio would apply to exports from the maritime provinces, mostly fresh fish.

Mr. hon. friend has referred to the depressed condition of the fishermen along the coast of New Brunswick, especially the lobster fishermen, whose situation we are investigating now.

I may inform him that there is no duty on lobsters going into the United States, and fortunately our fishermen have enjoyed a fairly good market during the present season, although the catch was not as large as it had been in the past.

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January 26, 1937