July 4, 1935

QUESTIONS


(Questions answered orally are indicated by an asterisk.)


POST OFFICE STATISTICS

CON

J.-Eugène Tétreault

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. TETREAULT:

How many post offices were (a) closed; (b) opened, and (c) locations changed, in each

province, and in each county from December, 1921, to August, 1930?

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CON

Arthur Sauvé (Postmaster General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SAUVE:

Answers to (a), (b) and (c) in so far as provinces are concerned: (a) (b) (c)Offices closed Offices opened Change in sitePrince Edward Island .. 8 1 2Nova Scotia .. 156 87 56New Brunswick .. 180 114 28Quebec .. 193 411 55Ontario .. 317 344 9Manitoba .. 94 108 7Saskatchewan .. 211 232 17Alberta .. 226 245 10British Columbia .. 131 195 3Northwest Territories .. 1 13 -Yukon .. 4 4 -Total .. 1,521 1,754 187Prince Edward Island Kings .. - - -Prince . . 4 1 2Queens .. 4 - ~Nova Scotia Antigonish-Guysborough .. 11 14 12Cape Breton North-Victoria.. . .. 8 6 18Cape Breton South .. 2 3 -Colchester .. 25 1 1Cumberland .. 21 2 1Digby-Annapolis .. 9 4 2Halifax .. 10 5 3Hants-Kings .. 17 8 1Inverness .. 16 12 10Pictou .. 7 1 -Queens-Lunenburg .. 3 9 6Richmond-West Cape Breton.. .. 6 5 2Shelburne and Queens .. 10 3 -Shelbume-Yarmouth .. 2 3 -South Cape Breton and Richmond .. 7 6 -Yarmouth and Clare .. 2 5 -New Brunswick Charlotte .. 4 2 1Gloucester .. 1 22 9Kent .. 4 18 -N orthumberland .. 9 16 2

Questions

New Brunswick-Concluded

(a) (b) (c)Offices closed Offices opened Change in siteRestigouehe-Madawaska 18 1Royal 9 7St. John-Albert 7 Vietoria-Carleton 6 1Westmorland 13 6York-Sunibury Quebec 3 1Argenteuil 2 1Bagot 1Beauce 4 1Beauharnois 1 Bellechase 7 1Berthier-Maskinonge 2 Bonaventure 19 10Brome-Missisquoi 1 Cartier Chambly-Vercheres 2 Champlain 5 1Charlevoix-Montmorency 4 Charle voix-Saguenay 16 1Chateauguay-Huntingdon 2 Chicoutimi 15 2Compton 1 Dorchester 6 4Drummond-Arthabaska 3 1Gaspe

.. .. 31 6George Etienne Cartier 1 Hochelaga 10 Hull 5 Jacques Cartier 14 Joliette

.. 1 Kamouraska 4 2Labelle 11 Lake St. John 4 Laprairie-Napierville 3 L'Assomption-Montcalm 6 2Laurier-Outremont 3 Laval-Two Mountains 2 1Levis 1L'Islet 12 Lotbiniere 5 1Maisonneuve, 10 1Matane 22 2Megan tic 5 1Montmagny 5 1Mount Royal 6 Nicolet Pontiac 34 1Portneuf 12 2Quebec 4 Quebe c-Mon tm o rency 1 ___Quebec East 4 Quebec South _ 1 Quebec West

IMr. Sauv6.] 5 2

Questions

Richelieu

Richmond-Wolfe

Rimouski

Ste. Ann

St. Antoine

St. Denis

St. Henri

St. Hyacinthe-Rouville..

St. James

St. Johns-Iberville

St. Lawrence-St. George..

St. Marys

Shefford

Sherbrooke

Stanstead

Temiscouata

Terrebonne

Three Rivers-St. Maurice Vaudreuil-SouLanges.. ..

Wright

Yamaska

Algoma East

Algoma West

Brant

Brantford City

Bruce North

Bruce South

Carleton

Duff erin-Simcoe....

Dundas

Durham

Elgin West

Essex East

Essex North

Essex South

Essex West

Fort William

Frontenac-Addington..

Glengarry

Grenville-Dundas.. ..

Grey North

Grey Southeast

Baldimand

Halton

Hamilton East

Hamilton West

Hastings East

Hastings-Peterborough

Hastings South

Hastings West

Huron North

Huron South

Kenora-Rainy River..

Kent

Quebec-Concluded

(a) (b) (c)Offices closed Offices opened Change in site. . . - - _. .. 5 5 -. . . ~ 5 14 -1 -. . . - 14 -. .. 1 - -. .. 1 1 1. . . ~ 5 -- 9 _. .. 1 4 -. . . - 2 -. . 1 - 2. .. 2 5 -. .. 1 2 -. .. 1 17 4. .. 4 8 -. . . - 6 1. .. 2 1 -. .. 9 18 -- Ontario . .. 21 21 1. .. 14 11 -. . . - - -. .. 3 - _. .. 1 - _. .. 3 - -. .. 4 6 -. . . ~ 1 _. .. 1 - -. .. 1 - -. .. 1 - -. .. 1 2 -. .. 1 4 -. . . - - -- 5 -. .. 9 16 -. .. 8 3 -. .. 2 - -. .. 1 1 -. .. 5 - -. .. 3 - . .. 1 - _. .. 1 - -. .. 1 1 -1 -. .. 1 1 -. .. 10 3 -. .. 2 - -. .. 2 3 -- -. .. 2 - -. .. 5 10 -. .. 1 1 -

Questions

Kingston City

Lamb ton East

Lambton West

Lanark

Leeds

Lincoln

London

Middlesex East

Middlesex West

Muskoka-Ontario

Nipissing

Norfolk-Elgin

Northumberland

Ontario

Ottawa

Oxford North

Oxford South

Parkdale

Parry Sound

Peel

Perth North

Perth South

Peterborough East

Peterborough West

Port Arthur and Kenora. Port Arthur-Thunder Bay

Prescott

Prince Edward-Lennox.. .

Renfrew North

Renfrew South

Russell

Simcoe East

Simcoe North

Simcoe South

Stormont

Timiskaming

Timiskaming North

Timiskaming South

Toronto Centre

Toronto East

Toronto East Centre.. ..

Toronto-High Park

Toronto North

Toronto Northeast

Toronto Northwest

Toronto-Scarborough.. ..

Toronto South

Toronto West

Toronto West Centre.. ..

Victoria

Waterloo North

Waterloo South

Welland

Wellington North

Wellington South

Wentworth

Ontario-Continued

(a) (b) (c)Offices closed Offices opened Change:1 9 5 1 -1 1 1 2 1 -15 1 1 10 , 213 20 16 1 3 - 2 1 -1 10 11 7 -27 17 2 4 -2 1 1 -3 6 8 -3 13 -7 10 -4 q 1 -o 4 1 7 2 18 3 -4 1 -7 1 1 -3 17 -5 25 -8 9 1- 3 -4 6 21 1 -2 3 -- 6 e -1 a i -4 2 2 5 -2 2 -6 2 -3 3 -2 - -1 2 -5 4 -

Questions

York East.. York North York South York West.

Brandon

Dauphin

Lisgar

MacDonald

Marquette

Neepawa

Nelson

Portage la Prairie....

Provencher

St. Boniface

Selkirk

Souris

Springfield

Winnipeg Centre

Winnipeg North

Winnipeg North Centre

Winnipeg South

Winnipeg South Centre.

Assiniboia

Battleford

Humboldt

Kindersley

Last Mountain..

Long Lake

Mackenzie

Maple Creek.. .

Melfort

Melville

Moose Jaw .. .. North Battleford Prince Albert.. . Qu'Appelle.. ..

Regina

Rosetown

Saltcoats

Saskatoon

South Battleford. Swift Current.. .

Weyfourn

W illow Bunch.. Yorkton

Ontario-Concluded

(a) (b) (c)

Offices closed Offices opened Change in site

4 14 -7 2 -1 10 -6 13 -

Manitoba

3 1 -5 ey 17 2Z 3 2 110 17 -12 7 -5 17 -14 3 11 5 14 3 -16 8 27 2 -4 19 -2 1 -1 o 3 -Z i 3 2 - -

Saskatchewan

5 5 -5 8 -15 12 -18 13 -8 5 1 110 1 11 431 22 25 17 14 4 . -5 2 122 45 l15 24 -8 3 2 7 3 6 3 1 4 8 -7 3 113 10 -7 8 -18 13 43 4 2

Alberta

23 12 -11 17 330 16 2

Acadia.. .. Athabaska.. Battle River

Questions

Alberta-Concluded

(a) (b) (c)Offices closed Offices opened ChangeBow River 13 Calgary East 12 Calgary West 5 Camrose 2 Edmonton East 21 Edmonton West 33 Lethbridge 4 Macleod 4 Medicine Hat 14 1Peace River 56 4Red Deer 11 Strathcona 7 Vegreville 5 Victoria 3 Wetaskiwin British Columbia 10 Cariboo 60 1Comox-Alberni 22 1Fraser Valley 5 Kootenay East 8 Kootenay West 9 1Nanaimo 15 New Westminster 10 Skeena 28 Vancouver-Burrard . 4 Vancouver Centre 5 Vancouver North 10 Vancouver South 9 Victoria 4 Yale Yukon 5 4 Northwest Territories 4 -1 13 _

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CANADIAN FARM LOAN BOARD-DECISIONS

LIB

Mr. DUBOIS:

Liberal

1. Is the government aware that the Canadian Farm Loan Board has not yet reached a decision with respect to certain loan applications it received some two months ago?

2. If so, will the government take the necessary steps to require the board to expedite its findings ?

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

1 and 2. The governmenit is advised that loan applications received by the board in the province of Quebec are being disposed of as

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soon as is reasonably possible following the receipt of appraisal reports and of such additional information as may be required in determining the merits of the individual applications. Following the appointment of a chief executive officer for the province of Quebec on May 16th last, the work of securing and instructing competent men to handle the largely increased volume of appraisal work in the province has necessarily taken some time to complete. Appraisal operations in the province are, however, now fully under way.

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QUEBEC HARBOUR COMMISSION-AUTOMOBILES

CON

Mr. LAFLECHE:

Conservative (1867-1942)

1. During the last five years of the Quebec harbour commission, under the administration of commissioners Power, Gauvin, Boutin-Bourassa (a) how many automobiles were purchased; (b) of what make were they; (c) what was the price of each such automob le?

2. Under the administration of commissioners

O'Meara. Bertrand and Leblond (a) how many automobiles were purchased; (b) of what make were they; (e) what was the price of each such automobile ? .

3. What was the total amount of travelling expenses allowed to commissioners Power, Gauvin. Boutin-Bourassa during the last five years of their administration?

4. What was the cost of the upkeep of a garage for repairs to the automobiles of Messrs. Power, Gauvin, Boutin-Bourassa, during the last five years of their administration?

5. What was the total amount paid under the Power. Gauvin, Boutin-Bourassa administration for the purchase of automobiles, travelling expenses, chauffeurs and other personal expenses of such commissioners?

6. What was the total amount paid under the O'Meara, Bertrand' and Leblond administration for travelling expenses, purchase of automobiles, chauffeurs and other personal expenses of such commissioners?

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CON

Alfred Duranleau (Minister of Marine)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DURANLEAU:

The following information has been furnished by the Quebec Harbour Commissioners ;

1. (a) Ten.

(b) and (c)-

1926 ....Ford $ 545 00Cadillac Big 6

5,750 00Studebaker Big 6.. .. 3,465 751927 ....Studebaker Big 6.. .. 3,380 00Chrysler

2,675 001928 ....Graham-Paige

3,025 00Ford

625 001929 ....Packard 4,215 00Cadillac Sedan.... 6,760 001930 ....Lasalle

5,075 00

2. (a) Two.

(b) and (c)-

1931 Plymouth

Studebaker Truck..

3. S9.785.30.

4. $15,353.51.

5. $132,752.42.

6. $79,507.79.

alcohol tax Mr. POULIOT:

What revenue has accrued from the tax on alcohol for each fiscal year since 1930?

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CON

Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

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GUARANTEE OF RAILWAY BONDS

LIB

Mr. RINFRET:

Liberal

1. What amount of cash was paid to Canadian Northern, Grand Trunk and Grand Trunk Pacific Railways, and what amount of their bonds was guaranteed by the dominion government from 1900 to July, 1911?

2. What amount of cash was paid to these railways and amount of bonds guaranteed by same from July, 1911, to the taking over of each road?

3. What was the estimated value of each road and amount in cash or kind paid by the government for same?

4. What is the amount of bonds of the Canadian National system at present held by public, and what are the yearly interests on same?

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THE GOVERNOR GENERAL

CON

Richard Bedford Bennett (Prime Minister; President of the Privy Council; Secretary of State for External Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Right Hon. R. B. BENNETT (Prime Minister) :

Mr. Speaker, I was about to proceed

with a motion when the first question was called, and I thought it well to conclude that order of business before proceeding with the motion which last night I indicated I proposed to make.

I move, seconded by the right hon. leader of the opposition (Mr. Mackenzie King) that an humble address be submitted to His Excellency the Governor General in the following words:

To His Excellency the Right Honourable the Earl of Bessborough, a member of His Majesty's Most Honourable Privy Council. Knight Grand Cross of The Most Distinguished Order of Saint Michael and Saint George. Governor General and Commander-in-Chief of the Dominion of Canada.

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May it please Your Excellency:

We, His Majesty's dutiful and loyal subjects, the Commons of Canada

in parliament assembled, assure Your Excellency of our deep and sincere regret at the approaching termination of your official connection with our country as the representative of His Gracious Majesty. At the same time we hasten to add the hope that this official termination will not mean the severance of those ties which have so happily been established between Your Excellency and our country and its people.

During your term of office Your Excellency has never spared' yourself in your efforts to secure accurate and intimate knowledge of all parts of our dominion. You have, accordingly, gained an understanding of our problems and our possibilities, as profound as it has been sympathetic. Your assiduous devotion to the affairs of state, and your deep and human interest in the widespread activities of our people have won for you the warm regard of all Canadians. Your encouragement of dramatic art, an important but often neglected aspect of our national development, will be felt for long years to come.

Your Excellency has been with us during a period of world-wide economic depression and social strain. You have seen the effects of that depression on our national economy. You have, however, also seen its failure to destroy our national morale. Amidst the tribulations of economic distress, as in the stern test of war, Canada has stood firm, and, with renewed courage and determination, is ready again to continue her forward march.

Our expressions of regret at Your Excellency's departure would, indeed, be incomplete if we did not associate in that regret Her Excellency, The Countess of Bessborough, whose graciousness and charm have won for her an affection throughout Canada which is both deep and widespread.

We beg that on your return to your homeland Your Excellency will convey to His Majesty the assurance of Canada's steadfast loyalty to the crown and devotion to his throne and person, so strikingly demonstrated in the recent and unforgettable celebrations attendant upon His MajestyV silver jubilee.

I think it possibly desirable that I should make a few observations before the house adopts this motion. I say that because of the apparent misunderstanding that has arisen in some quarters as to the methods adopted' in the appointment of a governor general and1 the duties and responsibilities connected with that office. It will be recalled by all who are familiar with our institutions that at confederation the British North America Act provided that the executive authority in this dominion should continue to be vested in the queen, now the king, but inasmuch as the king cannot be present in Canada for the discharge of the duties of chief executive of the state, it becomes essential that he should designate and appoint some person to represent him. That person is, by our constitution, designated the governor general, and under the letters patent

issued by successive sovereigns the office is constituted in the terms of "governor general and commander in chief of the Dominion of Canada." Obviously, the appointment of such an official is one of very great importance, for it involves two questions; first, the conclusion by the sovereign that the person designated is one possessing his confidence because it involves an appointment with consequences similar in many respects to those which follow from the granting of a power of attorney to a person whom one may select. Once the sovereign was satisfied that- a particular person commanded his confidence and was in every way worthy in his opinion to be designated as his attorney or as governor general in fact of this dominion, the next question of course was to determine by whom the recommendation should be made for the appointment.

Up until the last appointment the recommendation in point of fact came from the British government, and the recommendation to the sovereign was the recommendation of the Prime Minister of Great Britain. After the conference of 1926 and the statute of Westminster it of course is clear that the recommendation for the appointment of a governor general is no longer made by the Prime Minister of Great Britain but by the Prime Minister of the dominion affected.

A few days ago I was reading a dispatch that came from London, indicating that there was a profound misunderstanding as to the method followed in connection with the appointment of a governor general for this dominion. Henoe I make these observations.

The appointment thus being made the instructions given to the governor general by His Majesty constitute his letters of authority, just as a power of attorney which may be given by one person to another is the document that controls the extent to which the powers and responsibilities and functions are to be exercised.

The additional reason I direct attention to this is because a condition arose when the present governor general took over his duties in Canada quite unparalleled in our history so far as I have been able to ascertain. It will be recalled that in 1926 His Majesty issued his letters patent to Lord Willingdon, now viceroy of India. In the ordinary course of events he would occupy his position until the fall of 1931 or at least until some time in the year 1931. In 1930 when it was apparent that a new governor general would have to be selected I discussed the matter with thie British authorities and it was then believed that there would be no possible likelihood of the office being vacated in Canada

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before the expiration of the usual term of the governor general, but later owing to difficulties that need not here be mentioned the British government by cable asked us whether or not there would be any objection to their suggesting the name of the governor general of Canada, Lord Willingdon, to His Majesty as prospective viceroy of India. Lord Willingdon was advised in the sarnie sense, and the government of Canada had to decide whether or not, having regard to the public interest as a whole, it should give its consent to such action being taken as would prevent the usual term of office being completed by the then incumbent. We chose of course, the course that involved the appointment of the Earl of Willingdon as viceroy of India. We believed that with his experience in India as a governor of I think two of the provinces it was desirable that he should serve the greater cause and become viceroy of India. He was thereupon appointed.

It was not possible on a few moments' notice .to appoint a successor, and it is in that regard that I now diesire to make a few observations. When Lord Willingdon left these shores and went to England he still continued to be governor general of Canada, and it was essential that he should so continue until his successor arrived in Canada and took office, whereupon his commission terminated. Lord Willingdon left Canada on January 15, 1931, and immediately the responsibility fell upon this government under the new practice to take immediate steps for the appointment of a successor. Obviously had we not been of the opinion from the information received that that contingency would not arise action would have been taken to deal with the matter in the fall of 1930 when members of this administration were in London. But the matter had to be dealt with, and it was dealt with, as speedily as possible, for Lord Bess-borough arrived in Canada on April 4, 1931. For the first time the .procedure became different from what it had theretofore been. For the first time the recommendation of a governor general had to come from the Prime Minister of Canada, and not from the Prime Minister of Great Britain, and obviously the powers that had always been exercised by the sovereign had to be exercised much more rapidly than had theretofore been the case, because there was no opportunity to discuss matters personally in London with those who were interested.

Names were submitted to His Majesty. So far as I know all of them were satisfactory to the king. But the question of securing the willingness of any person thus named to come to Canada was an entirely different matter.

Lord Bessborough, out of a sense of public duty, and in order to deal with a problem of great difficulty so far as we were concerned, accepted the office, and the recommendation having been made he was duly appointed. For the first time the Canadian Secretary of State for External Affairs countersigned the commission under which the governor general was appointed, it being handed to him on his arrival in Canada for, as he is sworn in the commission is read, and later published in the Gazette. I mention this because there was an interval of about six weeks only in which it was possible to secure a governor general for this country. The usual practice has been to designate the governor general about six months in advance so that he may be able to conclude his business and make arrangements for an absence from home of what may be five years. To any of us that would be a matter of importance, and much more so to those who may be concerned with business and with affairs of many kinds, and who have to look forward to leaving their own homes for so long a period. However, yielding to the request that was made, Lord Bessborough was appointed and accepted office, arriving here on April 4, 1931. The date has a profound bearing upon subsequent events because in the ordinary course it is not usual for a governor general to arrive at that time of year. It is an inconvenient time for reasons that will at once commend themselves to members of this house. When His Excellency's term of office had reached four years he had to deal with the problem in one of two ways. If our request that he should remain until the spring of 1936 were given effect to, Lord Bessborough would terminate his office here in the spring of next year and remain until the fall by arrangements that could be made and thus permit his successor to follow the usual course of commencing his term of office in the fall. But there were other conditions which made it desirable that the other alternative should be adopted. I think I should say frankly that medical advice indicated that it would be rather difficult for the Countess of Bessborough to remain in this country another winter. His Excellency with the full approval of the government requested the king to permit him to retire this fall. His Majesty, in view of all the circumstances and having regard to the delicate matter to which I have referred, agreed that this action should be taken; hence it is that Lord Bessborough is terminating his office now rather than at a later period.

I mention this for another reason. There was a vague rumour, I am not quite sure whether it was published, that His Excellency

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was leaving Canada earlier than, usual because of differences with his Prime Minister and the government. Nothing that I can conceive of could be more wholly inaccurate than that. For many years I have had occasion to have official relations with men in high office and I say frankly that I have never been on terms of greater friendliness and friendship with any official than I have been with the governor general of this dominion. I make that statement because in fairness to him it is not right that a rumour of that kind should find credence or circulation without being denied, His Excellency not being in a position to make a statement himself.

It was essential that a period of months should elapse in which his successor designate should find an opportunity to make arrangements to come to Canada. I shall not deal with that more than to say that the Governor General Designate of Canada, Lord Tweedsmuir, will in ordinary course be here this fall to begin his duties under the new procedure which I have taken some time to describe to the house.

_ The position of governor general of Canada is not an easy one. There is an opinion on the part of some that it consists of the discharge of very few duties and the enjoyment of much leisure. Such is not quite the case. In the first place, the governor general is the personal representative of His Majesty the King, which is indicated to the public by the king's flag that is flown wherever he may be at any time in this dominion. The governor general has great and onerous responsibilities in connection with the administration of government. Proposed measures are submitted to him for his consideration. If he has had much experience, his advice and counsel are of the utmost value to those who are responsible for the conduct of government. In this case, Lord Bessborough had been for years a member of the British House of Commons. On the death of his father he succeeded to a seat in the House of Lords, where, while in England, he had been rather generally in attendance. That gave him a very wide knowledge of the working of our institutions, a very wide knowledge of parliamentary practice and procedure and enabled the prime minister of the day, whoever he might be, to discuss with one who knew by practice and not by theory the difficulties that governments have to encounter in dealing with problems of legislation and allied problems that concern governments in any British country. In this instance the experience of Lord Bessborough has been of the utmost value. I desire to pay my tribute to his interest in everything that concerned the wel- ;

fare of this country from the standpoint of legislation and to his willingness at all times to assist those responsible for government with his counsel and advice and with the benefits of his wide and extensive experience.

I can say that also with respect to another matter. His Excellency had had wide experience in business. Before he came to these shores he was interested in many undertakings and his wide business experience in close association with financial leaders in the city of London have been of the greatest possible value to the Dominion of Canada. By maintaining personal contact, by correspondence with his former associates in London, he is sometimes able to correct misapprehensions and misunderstandings which have existed. When matters of business are discussed with him, as they have been, out of the large experience that he has had in the city of London he has rendered great service to our country. I desire to give my personal testimony upon that point.

As to the interest which Their Excellencies have had in the welfare of Canada, it is not my purpose to do more than refer to the terms of the address itself. They have visited every province in the dominion and have seen conditions as they really exist. They have talked with people on the farms, with the fisherman by his boat; they have talked with those in mill and factory, as well as those working in offices and the financial institutions of the country. They have derived in a large measure first hand information of all that concerns our well-being. In moments of depression it has been the privilege of the governor general to make suggestions that have encouraged the people and enabled them to take up their burdens and task with renewed determination in meeting conditions which confronted them. All these observations as to the manner in which the duties of a great office have been discharged I know are unnecessary for me to make, but I desire in my place here to pay a tribute to the disinterested character of the services rendered by His Excellency to this dominion in times of great difficulty.

I need hardly say that there was a peculiar affection for the Countess of Bessborough on the part of the Canadian people when she first came to these shores. The subsequent birth of a son gave cause for an increased sentimental attachment on the part of our people and the fact that the boy bears the name St. Lawrence is a constant reminder of his having been born in the province of Quebec and of the great part which the river

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bearing that name plays in the economic life of Canada. I have trespassed longer upon the time of the house than I had intended but there were some misapprehensions and misunderstandings which I felt should be cleared up. I shall content myself with saying that for disinterested service, for a high conception of the duties of a great office and in the performance of these duties and responsibilities with dignity and zeal, Lord Bessborough will rank among any of his predecessors, and the gracious charm of his consort, the Countess of Bessborough, will never be forgotten by Canadians who have been privileged to make her acquaintance. I move the adoption of the address I have just read.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Right Hon. W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Leader of the Opposition):

Mr. Speaker, I have much pleasure in seconding the motion just made by the right hon. the Prime Minister (Mr. Bennett) and in associating myself and hon. members on this side of the house with the sentiments expressed in the address which it is proposed to present to His Excellency the Governor General on the approaching termination of his official connection with our country.

As the Prime Minister has indicated, the position of governor general holds for the occupant of that high office, relationships of the greatest significance and importance. The first of these relationships referred to by the Prime Minister is that of the governor general to the crown. There is also the relationship of the governor general to the government and to parliament and, as the Prime Minister has also indicated, there is the relationship of the governor general to the people of the country. I doubt if an incumbent of that high office could wish for more than that it should be said of him at the conclusion of his term of office that, as respects these relationships, he had been faithful to the best traditions which cluster around all three. This, I believe, can truly be said of the Earl of Bessborough. It can be said that, in his relationship to the crown, to the govern-[DOT] ment and parliament, and to the people, His Excellency has fulfilled the expectations of his sovereign, and, as we have just heard, of the government which was responsible for his appointment.

The Prime Minister has referred at some length to the relationship of the governor general to the crown. It is true, as the right hon. gentleman has said, that in common with all our interimperial relations the position of governor general has undergone farreaching and fundamental change with the course of time.

It is not so long ago that the appointment of the governor general was made, as the Prime Minister has indicated, at the instance of the government not of Canada but of Great Britain. The extent to which there has been consultation between the two governments has varied considerably from time to time, but I am sure I am right when I say that the voice of the Canadian government has been increasingly heard and lecognized as the years have gone by. It is a distinguishing mark of His Excellency's appointment that in letter as well*as in spirit the appointment was made on the advice of the Canadian Prime Minister without any intervention on the part of the government of Great Britain. As we are touching on these matters historically it is perhaps permissible at the moment for me to indicate how far that development had gone prior to the time at which my right hon. friend came into office.

The Prime Minister has referred to the appointment of His Excellency Lord Willing-don to the position of viceroy of India. I recall that at the time it became necessary to choose a successor to Lord Byng, then governor general, the British government communicated with the government of Canada in the matter. The British government submitted names which it thought might be acceptable, but the British government was informed by the government of Canada that We would wish to have included, among any names that might be submitted, the name of Lord Willingdon. In a communication to the Prime Minister of Great Britain, speaking as the Prime Minister of Canada, I pointed out that we were not anxious, at that particular time, to raise the question of at whose instance the governor general of Canada should be appointed as between the government of Great Britain and the government of Canada. I stated that if the government of Great Britain was prepared to carry out the wish of the Canadian government in the matter, as had been more or less the case in the past, that question would not be raised, 'but that we maintained the position that the appointment was one for which, like others related to Canada, the Canadian ministry should be responsible. When the imperial conference of 1926 took place in London I brought up the matter there, and one of the subjects I submitted for consideration at the conference was the position of the governor general with respect to the government by which he should be appointed. I took the position that the governor general -should be the ap-pointee of His Majesty's government of the do,minion

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in which he was expected to be the representative of the crown. That matter was fully considered by the conference of 1926, and as hon. members who are familiar with its proceedings know, a resolution was adopted unanimously by the conference of 1926 approving and asserting that as the position. With the enactment of the statute of Westminster no further word was needed to make it quite dear that so far as the appointment of the governor general of a self-governing British dominion thereafter was concerned that the appointment would be made on the exclusive reeommtnda-tion and responsibility of the Prime Minister of the day, having always in mind, as the Prime Minister has just pointed out, that whoever is appointed is the representative of His Majesty the King and that naturally His Majesty's own wishes in the matter must also be given the greatest respect and consideration. .

A further relationship to which the Prime Minister has referred is that of the governor general to the government and to parliament. Of the relationship of His Excellency to the government, I, of course, cannot speak; the Prime Minister alone can .tell us of that. But may I say to my right hon. friend at once, when he mentions that there have been rumours of some difference between His Excellency the Governor General and the Prime Minister, that I for one have heard no rumour of the kind, nor am I aware of anyone who has. There have been many rumours of differences between my right hon. friend and some of those who are very close to him; we know of one that has resulted in a very marked separation. But may I say that so far as the governor general is concerned I have heard of nothing of the kind, and I was not surprised to hear my right hon. friend say, as he did, that in the discharge of his own onerous duties he had found the wide political experience of Lord Bessborough and His Excellency's large financial and business experience as well a very great help to him while he has been in office, and that he had found in the intimate associations which he had been privileged to enjoy with the present governor general much for which he will long cherish a grateful memory and appreciation.

As to the relations of the governor general to parliament, there again it is for the Prime Minister to speak. But as leader of His Majesty's opposition and, in that position, having some responsibility to view generally all situations affecting parliament, I might perhaps be permitted to say a word. I believe that, from the beginning of the time Lord Bessborough came to Canada up to the present

moment, His Excellency not only has sought but has succeeded, as between political parties in this country, in maintaining an attitude that has been scrupulously impartial. And may I [DOT]go a step further and say that I feel that, on many occasions, a word spoken in season, and a kindly act on the part of Lord Bessborough as the king's representative, have gone very far in some situations that were extremely irritating and baffling to help to make a rough place smoother than it otherwise would have been. Here again I join with the Prime Minister in appreciation of the difficult position of a governor general in what is expected of him in the matter of travel and speaking throughout the country, particularly in times of great, depression and stTain. Inevitably there must be a colouring of all efforts of an administration by the character of the times in which the administration is carried on. It has been Lord Bessborough's good or ill fortune to be in Canada in a period when, as mentioned in the address, the country has been suffering great depression, and strain. I think that, the addresses His Excellency has given from time to time, and which have always had about them a note of optimism, of hope and of faith, are deserving of mention and praise. He has sought at all times to give encouragement to the people. We know of his effort .to become acquainted with all parts of the Country, of his effort to become acquainted with the people, of his desire to inform himself of conditions and to identify himself with great causes, and of the extent to which he has been successful in identifying himself with and furthering patriotic and philanthropic as well as cultural developments in our country.

It is wholly appropriate that the address should contain special reference to the interest which His Excellency has taken in dramatic ant. I for one would like to have seen that interest and encouragement find its natural and complete fulfilment in the establishment of a national theatre in Canada. However, that consummation may come in the course of time, and, if it comes, it will owe its inspiration more than anything else to the dramatic competitions with which His Excellency's name will be permanently associated.

There is one other memorial expressive of broad human sympathies which I believe will .prove to be of an enduring character and regarding which I think it is appropriate to say just a word, and that is the great personal interest taken by Their Excellencies in the inauguration and promotion of the cancer fund established at the time of the king's silver jubilee. We know it is due to the magnanimity of His Majesty that the fund is

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being used for research in Canada and for the treatment of cancer in Canada, but I believe it is an open secret that the form which the gift assumed owed much to a suggestion of His Excellency.

I believe all hon. members, and the country generally, will appreciate very much, and regard as eminently fitting, the reference which is made in the address to the part which has been taken in all matters pertaining to Government House and His Excellency's social and other responsibilities by Her Excellency the Countess of Bessborough. In referring to Her Excellency's "graciousness and charm" the words of the address have been well chosen. I am sure we all agree that Her Excellency has won, in a very complete way, both the admiration and the affection of the people of this country.

In conclusion may I add that in saying good-bye to Their Excellencies, we shall hope they will carry away from Canada memories as cherished and as pleasant as those which they are leaving in our midst. When again in the old country they will I am sure often think of the days of their sojourn in Canada. In so doing I trust they will always feel there is in Canada an abiding interest in all that pertains to their welfare and that of the members of their distinguished family, and that they have at all times the best of wishes of the Canadian people.

,Mr. G. G. OOOTE (Macleod): In the absence of the hon. member for Acadia (Mr. Gardiner), I would like to say on behalf of myself and members of this group that we join very heartily in the kindly sentiments expressed at this time by the Prime Minister (Mr. Bennett) and the leader of the opposition (Mr. Mackenzie King) to Lord and Lady Bessborough. I trust Their Excellencies may carry with them the very kindliest remembrances of their stay in Canada, and I am sure we will all be glad to welcome them back to this country at any time they may be able to visit us.

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Motion agreed to. Mr. BENNETT moved, seconded by the leader of the opposition (Mr. Mackenzie King): That a message be sent to the Senate,informing their honours that this house has passed an address to His Excellency theGovernor General on the occasion of the approaching termination of His Excellency's official connection with this country, andrequest that their honours unite with this house in said address. And that the clerk do carry the said message to the Senate. Motion agreed' to.


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