June 28, 1935

CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES :

I shall have to inquire with regard to the question .of commission.

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

I have none of the data here, but I will endeavour to get it before the committee rises.

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Item agreed to. International Labour Conference-further amount required, $5,000.


LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

This is a rather small amount. The government had some forms of convention through this organization, and the mistake that was made was to contend that these forms were binding like contracts. It was a great mistake of the government, though I see some of my hon. friends opposite smiling-one of them particularly on the treasury benches. He knows that I am right and he knows that these so-called conventions are not binding upon Canada and were merely an attempt to justify the new era and the new social legislation which was passed in an effort to save Canada economically. It was a great mistake and everyone regrets it. We find a vote of $1,000 for the administration of hours of labour, weekly rest and minimum wage acts. In addition there are other large amounts being provided to grease the wheels of this new machine. It is regrettable that a complete study of this whole matter was not left to the minister whom I saw smiling a minute ago. I know that with his profound knowledge of the law he would have told the government that they were mistaken. If the Minister of Finance (Mr. Rhodes) had been asked to look into this matter I am sure that with his great experience as a lawyer he would have said that it was no good. If the Minister of Public Works (Mr. Stewart) had been asked to make a special survey of the whole thing I am sure he would have said that it was no good. If my friend the Minister of Marine (Mr. Duranleau) had been asked to report I am sure his report would have been against all this. If the Solicitor General (Mr. Dupre) had been asked to look into this legislation

I am sure he would have said: We cannot go on with this. As it was, this was made up by third rate clerks and imposed upon the government by someone whom we all know. They were told they must accept it as it was, whether good or bad, just because it looked nice. This legislation was not drafted as a means of doing good, it was simply made to look nice. And it is going to cost a lot to pay for it all. I do not believe this legislation will work out and my deep conviction is that as soon as it is brought before the courts it will be declared to be void. We will then be no better off than we were before while those who have been appointed as members of these boards will join the ranks of the unemployed. Perhaps that is the only satisfaction we will get from the legislation.

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Item agreed to. Administration of hours of labour, weekly rest and minimum wages acts, $100,000.


LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

The government

seems now to be showing some concern about the constitutionality of its measures and in view of that attitude I should like to know if the minister does not think it might be wise to consider testing the validity of one, two or three of these acts before entering upon their administration on too vast a scale?

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

There is nothing I can add to what the Prime Minister (Mr. Bennett) has said on one or two different occasions when similar questions were put to him by the right hon. leader of the opposition (Mr. Mackenzie King). I shall direct the Prime Minister's attention to this question in the event of his desiring to enlarge upon what he has said previously.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

The trouble is that in the early part of the session the Prime Minister did not seem to care much about the matter of constitutionality but during the latter part he has seemed to be greatly concerned. We should like to know just where the government stands now.

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

If I possessed the necessary legal background I might attempt to answer the question myself, but not having that I prefer to leave it to the Prime Minister.

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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

I can quite appreciate the fact that no member of the government feels himself able to give an answer.

Supply-Indian Affairs

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LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

This so-called social legislation was the main issue in the provincial campaign in New Brunswick which ended yesterday and I think the answer was loud enough.

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

My hon. friend will appreciate that this vote is under the Department of Labour and the Minister of Labour (Mr. Gordon) is not present. I have offered to give information in answer to one or two questions and before the committee rises I shall endeavour to answer the question of the hon. member for Weyburn (Mr. Young).

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INDIAN AFFAIRS


Indians- . To provide for expenses connected with the administration of Indian affairs, including salaries, supplies, relief, medical attendance, hospitalization, dwellings, agricultural activities, surveys, roads, bridges, irrigation, dyking, education, etc.-further amount required, *200,000.


LIB

Jean-François Pouliot

Liberal

Mr. POULIOT:

Could the minister give

the number of the Indians Who have received relief since 1929? If he cannot give that information immediately will he furnish it before the end of the session?

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CON

Thomas Gerow Murphy (Minister of the Interior; Superintendent-General of Indian Affairs)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MURPHY:

I shall be very glad to

do that.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

I understand that quite

a substantial portion of this item is to be expended upon roads in the Indian reserves; am I correct in that understanding?

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June 28, 1935