James Layton Ralston
Liberal
Mr. RALSTON:
But, Mt. Speaker, you
ruled on them.
Mr. RALSTON:
But, Mt. Speaker, you
ruled on them.
Mr. SPEAKER:
I ruled there was no
imputation.
Mr. RALSTON:
If you did not get the
words how could you make that ruling?
Mr. SPEAKER:
I took it from the statement which the hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth made.
Mr. RALSTON:
With the greatest possible deference I must appeal from your ruling, Mr. Speaker, because I submit if that is permitted in this house any imputation can be made at any time that hon. members are not speaking in good faith.
Mr. SPEAKER:
The hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth (Mr. Ralston) on a question of privilege has stated that certain improper imputations have been directed to him by the right hon. Prime Minister (Mr. Bennett). I have ruled that there were no improper imputations that were not withdrawn1. From that ruling the hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth desires to appeal. Have I stated the question correctly?
Mr. MacINNIS:
On a point of order-
Mir. MACKENZIE KING:
As I understand it, the hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth (Mr. Ralston) has stated on his word as a member of this house that such and such of his own knowledge is a fact, and he has asked the Prime Minister to accept that statement Surely it is the duty of the Prime Minister to accept a statement of that kind by an1 hon. member, and of your honour to rule that he should so accept it.
Mr. SPEAKER:
With the greatest deference, there has been no denial by the Prime Minister. The gist of the complaint of the hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth, as I understand it, is that the Prime Minister has imputed to him improper conduct. I have ruled that no improper conduct has been imputed to the hon. member, and from that ruling the hon. gentleman has appealed.
Referring to paragraph 282 of Beauchesne I see that the procedure in a matter of this kind usually is to direct the clerk to take down the unparliamentary words to which objection has been taken. That has mot been done in this case and I shall endeavour to state the complaint of the hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth as fairly as possible. The hon. member for Shelburne-Yarmouth has complained that certain words used by the Prime Minister this evening imputed to him improper conduct as a member of parliament. I have ruled that the words so used did mot impute to the hon. member improper conduct, and from that ruling the hon. member desires to appeal.
The house divided om the question: Shall the ruling of the chair be sustained? And the ruling was sustained on the following division:
++YEAS
Messrs:
Arsenault
Belec
Bury
Chaplin
Davies
Dickie
Duranleau
Esling
Fraser (Cariboo)
Gardiner
Gobeil
Hay
Irvine
Kennedy (Peace River)
Luchkovieh
Macdonald (Kings)
McGillis
McLure
Maloney
Mitchell
Myers
Peck
Plunkett
Price
Quinn
Shaver
Short
Smith
(Viotoria-Carleton)
Spencer
Sproule
Stewart (Lethbridge) Stitt (Nelson)
Stitt (Selkirk) Southerland Turnbull Weir (Melfort) Wright-37.
Privilege-Mr. Ralston
NAYS
Messrs:
Golding Motherwell
Hanbury Neill
M.aclnnis Reid
McKinnon Weir (Macdonald)
McPhee Young-10.
PAIRS
(The list of pairs is furnished by the chief
whips.)
Messrs:
Anderson (Toronto- Mulock
High Park)
Anderson (Hailton Factor
Baker Bertrand
Barber Totzke
Baribeau B e alibi en
Barrette Rheaume
Bell (Hamilton West) Mercier (St. Henri)
Bell (St. Antoine) Raymond
Bell (St. John) Dubois
Bennett King
Bey non Euler _
Bowen McKenzie (Assiniboia)
Boyes Mills
Burns Butcher
Cahan Rinfret
Cantley Cardin
Caseeliman Howard
Charters Blair
Cotmam Hurtuibise
Cowan Ilsley
Dorion V erville
Duguay Dumaine
Dupre Ferland
Edwards Elliott
Embury Bothweld
Ernst Rradette
Fortin Fafard
Gagnon Boulanger
Ganong Michaud
Garland (Carleton) Gouilet
Geary Mercier (Laurier-Outremont)
Gordon Fiset, Sir Eugene
Gott _ Rutherford
Guthrie Lapointe
Hackett Perras
Hanson Veniot
(York-S unbury)
Harris Jacobs
Johnstone Donnelly
Jones MacLean
Kennedy (Winnipeg) McIntosh
Larue Thauvette
Lafleche Girouard
Laurin Fontaine
Lawson Gray
MacDonald Urquhart
(Cape Breton)
MacMillan (Saskatoon) Mackenzie (Vancouver) MacNicol Rennie
McDade
MeGibbon
Manion
Matthews
Moore (Chateauguay-Huntingdon) Morand Mullins Murphy
Perley (Qu'Aippelle) Perley, Sir George
Dupuis Power Ohevrier Moore (Ontario) Dubue
Parent
Howden
Stewart (Edmonton)
Munn
Maxell
Pettit Bouchard
Pickel Boucher
Porteous Maopbail, Miss
Rhodes Ralston
Robinson Desrochers
Ross Roberge
Rowe Lacroix
Ryerson Taylor
Sauve Seguin
Senn Sanderson
Simpson (Simcoe) Jean
Simpson (Algoma) Casgrain Duff
Smith (Cumberland)
Smoke Poulio-t
Sipence Fraser (Northumberland)
Spotton MacMillan (Mackenzie)
Stewiart (Leeds) Fournier
Stinson Hall
Stirling Hanson (Skeena)
Sullivan Br asset
Tuimmom St-Pere
Weese Campbell
White (Loudon) Gershaw
Willis Brown
Wilson Variance
Mr. ELLIOTT:
I was paired with the hon. member for South Waterloo (Mr. Edwards). Had I voted I would have voted against the Speaker's ruling.
Mr. MACKENZIE (Vancouver):
I was
paired with the hon. member for Saskatoon (Mr. MacMillan). Had I voted I would have voted against the Speaker's ruling.
Mr. GERSHAW:
I was paired with the hon. member for London (Mr. White). Had I voted I would have voted against the Speaker's ruling. *
Mr. BOTHWELL:
I was paired with the hon. member for Hastings-Peterborough (Mr. Embury). Had I voted I would have voted against the Speaker's ruling.
Mr. SPENCE:
I was paired with the hon. member for Northumberland, Ont. (Mr. Fraser). Had I voted I would have voted to sustain the Speaker's ruling.
Mr. POULIOT:
I was paired with the hon. member for Brant (Mr. Smoke). Had I voted I would have voted against the Speaker's ruling.
Mr. PERLEY (Qu'Appelle):
I was paired with the hon. member for Vancouver North (Mr. Munn). Had I voted I would have voted to sustain the Speaker's ruling.
Mr. ILSLEY:
I was paired with the hon. member for Port Arthur-Thunder Bay (Mr. Cowan). Had I voted I would have voted against the Speaker's ruling.
Mr. BEYNON:
I was paired with the hon. member for North Waterloo (Mr. Euler): Had I voted I would have voted to sustain the Speaker's ruling.
Privilege-Mr. Ralston
Mr. BEAUBIER:
I was paired with the junior member for Ottawa (Mr. Ahearn). Had I voted I would have voted to sustain the Speaker's ruling.
Mr. ANDERSON (Halton):
I was paired with the hon. member for Toronto West Centre (Mr. Factor). Had I voted I would have voted to sustain the Speaker's ruling.