May 27, 1935

LIB

Joseph-Arthur Bradette

Liberal

Mr. BRADETTE:

At this point I should like to make a request of the Minister of Public Works. I notice that a certain amount of money is to be spent upon railway grade crossings. A situation exists in my section of the country along the National Transcontinental extending from the Quebec border to a point a feiw miles west of Hearst whereby the railway commission has the power to decide where they shall or shall not build fences. Apparently so far as the railways' administration is concerned, if they decide in certain sections around Kapuskasing not to build those fences the farmers have no rights against them.

Under the present scheme I should like the government to ear-mark a certain amount of money so that fencing may be carried out along the railway line from the Quebec border to a point west of Hearst. The committee and minister will readily understand the injustice this section of the country has suffered, and I believe we would do well to ear-mark a certain sum of money which could be spent in building fences along that portion of railway I have just mentioned.

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CON

Hugh Alexander Stewart (Minister of Public Works)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. STEWART (Leeds):

The appropriation mentioned in the schedule is for the purpose of eliminating crossings, and not for that of building fences, which latter procedure would appear to be the responsibility of the railway concerned, acting under the direction of the railway commission. I would think that if my hon. friend's constituents have a grievance they should bring it to the attention of the railway commission and endeavour to secure an order

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against the railway company for the construction of fences. I doubt however if we would have any right to build fences on railway property; I believe it would be a dangerous precedent to establish. However I shall draw the matter to the attention of the Minister of Railways and find out if anything can be done.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

First I should like to say to the minister that, as I pointed out on a former occasion, I see no reason

why these expenditures should not have been included in the estimates. We do not have the same opportunity to discuss an expenditure under a relief measure as we would have to discuss a like expenditure appearing in the estimates of a department. In the present year the minister's department is asking for $1,678,000, representing an increase of $54,000 over the amount voted last year. There would be no objection to that, but we find that under the guise of relief the department is asking for a further sum of $1,500,000 all of which, with one or two exceptions, is to be spent for purposes identical with those mentioned in the general estimates.

I shall ask certain questions, and as I proceed the minister may answer them. I would understand that this work will be done under the supervision of officials of the Department of the Interior, and that regular rates of wages will be paid. That is my understanding. So far as I have knowledge of the situation there are no twenty-cents-a-day men in the parks. The work will be carried on under the supervision of the superintendent of highway construction in the parks, and regular rates of wages will be paid.

Then, I note a further provision for the construction of air harbours, landing fields and sewer system. I should like the minister to inform the committee where these improvements are to take place, or in what particular parks the work is to be done. At this point I shall wait for an answer, because there are one or two further questions I should like to ask.

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

At the present time in

one of our parks a certain amount of work is being carried on by camps similar to those under the control of the Department of National Defence. Those camps will be closed very shortly, and works will be carried on under the provision contained herein.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Would you give me the location of the park you have in mind?

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

Riding Mountain national park. In any work carried on under this

measure regular wages will be paid, as was done last year. Works will be carried out in various national parks throughout the dominion, namely at Banff, Jasper, on the Golden-Revelstoke highway, * Elk Island national park. Glacier national park, Kootenay national park, Prince Albert national park, Riding Mountain national park, Waterton Lakes national park, and Yoho national park. A certain amount will be allocated for engineering supervision of work on certain historic sites, and, as is mentioned in the item, an amount will be spent for the continuation of the Golden-Revelstoke highway.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Where is

the sewer system to be constructed?

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Mr. MLTRPHY@

An amount of S10.000 is

allocated for extension of the water and sewer system in Jasper national park, an amount of $20,000 for sewer system in Kootenay national park, $7,500 for Prince Albert national park water, sewage and drainage and $26,500 for water system in Riding Mountain national park.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

I understand it is not for the construction of a complete new sewer system; it is just a continuation of existing water and sewer systems?

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

In Jasper and Kootenay

national parks amounts are allocated for extensions and improvements to the existing systems. In Prince Albert and Riding Mountain national parks new work is to be done.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Is the govvernment constructing sewers in these thinly populated places? The population of both these parks is very small.

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

In Riding Mountain and

Prince Albert national parks we are providing water rather than sewage systems, but the amounts are allocated under one heading.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

What about the landing fields?

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

The sum of $5,200 is

allocated to Banff national park, $17,400 to the Northwest Territories and $40,000 to the Yukon. The $40,000 allocated to the Yukon includes expenditures on certain roads. I would point out to the committee, as was pointed out formerly by the Minister of Public Works when, upon my unavoidable absence he was in charge of the item, that these amounts are tentative, and it is possible that the work may not be done in accordance with these exact figures. It may develop as the season goes on, that owing to climatic or other conditions, we may wish to make slight changes.

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I believe in the main however that these figures are as accurate as at present they can be given.

Mr. STEM7ART (Edmonton): I am not

concerned with whether or not this money may complete the work or only do a portion of it. Will this levelling work on the landing fields be done by day labour under the supervision of the department or by contract?

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

It will be done by day

labour under the supervision of the chief engineer of the department or the superintendents of the various parks.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

Is there

any portion of this vote to be spent on the Lake Louise-Jasper highway?

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

It is proposed to spend $110,000 on the Banff end and $115,000 on the Jasper end.

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LIB

Charles A. Stewart

Liberal

Mr. STEWART (Edmonton):

In connection with the Revelstoke or Big Bend highway I should like to know if the section up to the Canoe river has been completed?

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

There is a stretch of

about 16 miles to complete although certain grading work has been done. As the hon. member knows the department is obligated to build a bridge over the Canoe river and that work will be completed this year under this program.

Mr. STEM7ART (Edmonton): How much

is being allocated for that?

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LIB

Charles Murphy

Liberal

Mr. MURPHY:

$185,000 out of this vote but in addition there are certain moneys which were provided for by the act of last year but which were not expended. It is estimated that this section will be completed this year.

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May 27, 1935