The division of this money was left entirely in the hands of the railway companies. Like my hon. friend and other hon. members who come from constituencies in which railroad shops are located, I am anxious to help the men who work in these shops. I come from a fairly large railroad town, but I may say that the railways take the attitude that all that can be economically given to the shops is the allotment which I have mentioned. This allotment is not quite $4,000,000.
There is a certain amount of truth in the statement that this is a relief measure, but that is not entirely so. When this question first came up I stated that this was not only for relief; one of the paramount reasons for this legislation and one in which I believed very strongly was to help the heavy or capital industries to get going again. As my hon. friend knows, consumption goods are utilized even during a depression but the
need for capital goods disappears and the plants which manufacture such goods as equipment for railroads go out of business more frequently during a period of depression than do the manufacturers of consumption goods. I do not mind saying that I have been a very strong supporter of this measure because I thought that we should do everything to assist these heavy industries to get going. While it is true this is a relief measure, it is also a measure to help the heavy industries up the grade. I might mention to my hon. friend that the population of Montreal is over 1,000,000, that of Hamilton is approximately 150,000. Kingston has quite a good population and there is also a considerable population in the town in Nova Scotia from which my hon. friend (Mr. Cantley) comes, along with the surrounding towns. Over a million and a half people located in thickly populated centres will be indirectly affected by these equipment orders, and in addition there are the railroad shops from coast to coast. It is true that there is not an equal division as between equipment and repairs, $4,000,000 against $1:1,000,000, but I think the railroads themselves must be the judges of what is best. I have not urged them in any way as to the division and they have taken the attitude that this division would be about right. I do not think I need elaborate further on the remarks of my hon. friend.
Subtopic: WORKS, 'UNDERTAKINGS AND GUARANTEE OP RAILWAY EQUIPMENT SECURITIES TO CREATE EMPLOYMENT