March 28, 1935

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Some hon. MEMBERS:

Order.

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Ernest Lapointe

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I submit this is not a question of privilege, it is an argument. If the minister is allowed to do that every member will have the same privilege.

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CON

Leslie Gordon Bell

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. BELL (Hamilton):

Why do you want to shut it off?

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Joseph Philippe Baby Casgrain

Liberal

Mr. CASGRAIN:

Take your medicine.

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Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

I think the hon. minister has a right to give a brief statement of the facts.

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LIB

Ernest Lapointe

Liberal

Mr. LAPOINTE:

I shall have the same latitude?

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CON

Pierre Édouard Blondin (Speaker of the Senate)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. SPEAKER:

The hon. member for Quebec East (Mr. Lapointe) will get exactly the same treatment as any other hon. member.

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Wesley Ashton Gordon (Minister of Immigration and Colonization; Minister of Labour; Minister of Mines)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. GORDON:

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PRINTING OF ELECTORAL LISTS


On the orders of the day: Right Hon- W. L. MACKENZIE KING (Leader of the Opposition): I think I saw the Secretary of State (Mr. Cahan) take a little slip from his vest pocket. Hon. C. H. OAHAiN (Secretary of State): The inquiry I assume is in regard to the electoral lists. The electoral lists for the 243 electoral districts comprising 5,808,684 qualified electors have 'been all set up in type at the government printing bureau except the lists for two polling divisions in the electoral district of Skeena which have not been received. I have not yet been able to ascertain whether these polling divisions are still in existence or not. The electoral lists for 214 electoral districts have been printed, bound and delivered to the franchise commissioner for distribution, and distribution began, or instructions were given for distribution a week ago to-day. Lists for the 29 other electoral districts are already in type, a large number have been printed and they are at present being bound, and I trust they will be completely bound and ready for distribution during the present week. That hon. members may appreciate the enormous amount of work involved, I may say that the type alone used in the printing of these lists, which is kept standing, amounts to 350 tons, and the paper required is a very large quantity indeed. This additional work has been performed by the printing bureau while maintaining its ordinary services for government departments and for this parliament. I think that the officials and employees of the printing bureau, both men and women, have shown a degree of interest, speed and efficiency which is entirely commendable. There are no other two or three printing establishments in the Dominion of Canada combined which could have carried through this work in the same time.


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LIB

William Lyon Mackenzie King (Leader of the Official Opposition)

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE KING:

Might I ask the Secretary of State how he proposes to find: out whether those two missing polling subdivisions are in existence?

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Charles Hazlitt Cahan (Secretary of State of Canada)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. CAHAN:

I think some Indian guides should be sent out to inquire.

Mr. MdINTOSH: I think the hon. member in that riding is safe anyway.

railways and canals

The house in committee of supply, Mr. Morand in the chair.

Maritime Freight Rates Act-Additional amount, in excess of the sum of $1,440,000 already appropriated, required to provide for the payment from time to time during the

Supply-Labour-Annuities Act

fiscal year 1934-35 to the Canadian National Railway Company of the difference (estimated by the auditors of the said company and certified by the said auditors to the Minister of Railways and Canals as and when required by the said minister), occurring on account of the application of the Maritime Freight Rates Act, between the tariff toills and the normal tolls (upon the same basis as set out in section 9 of the said act with respect to companies therein referred to) on all traffic moved during the year 1934, under the tariffs approved, on the eastern lines (as referred to in section- 1 of the said act) of the Canadian National Railways, $338,239.21.

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

The Minister of Railways

is absent to-day, but my hon. friend will appreciate that there are other railway items standing on which he can discuss any matter he so desires.

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Item agreed to. Amount required to provide for payment to the Canadian National Railway Company of the net income deficit including profit and loss, incurred by the system during the year 1934, as certified to by the auditors in the annual report of the company for the year 1934, but exclusive of all non-cash items, including interest on dominion government advances, as further certified to by the auditors and approved by the Minister of Railways and Canals; this payment to be applied in reduction of accountable advances made to the company from the consolidated revenue fund under authority of the Canadian National Railways Financing Act, 1934: Canadian National Railways, excluding eastern lines. $42,589,824.96. Eastern lines, excluding Prince Edward Island car ferry and terminals, $5,434,133.74. Prince Edward Island car ferry and terminals, $383,942. -Mr. EULER: May I ask the minister whether the department is to follow the practice adopted for the last two years, I think, of charging the Canadian National Railway deficits directly against the general account rather than against the national railways account? Mr. RH-OD-ES: Yes, my h,on. friend is quite right; we are pursuing the same practice with respect to this vote as we followed last year. We are merely voting now that sum which was included in the Canadian National bill, which was passed upon also by the railway committee. We are merely voting the amount required now, and it will be charged up to the general fund.


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Edward Joseph Garland

United Farmers of Alberta

Mr. GARLAND (Bow River):

If no inconvenience would be caused anyone connected with the Canadian National system I submit that this item might well stand, involving as it does this large amount, until

the Minister of Railways is here and a discussion can take place on the whole question of the Canadian National system.

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Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

May I point out, Mr. Chairman, that there are other items in the main estimates which would permit a wide discussion as far as railway matters are concerned. This, of course, is a matter for the committee to determine, but unless we pass these supplementary estimates for this year and put through the bill covering them the votes will not be of any -benefit to those to whom the money is supposed to go. Under the ordinary practice we put through the supplementaries for this year and then pass a bill based upon them. The supplementaries for next year will follow in the course of a few days or -weeks as the case may be.

Mr. -GARLAND (Bow River): Then if it

is understood that the widest possible scope will be afforded in connection with the other items I have no further objection.

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Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

Certainly. This is merely

to enable the accounts to be paid within this year, because my hon. friend will appreciate that the fiscal year ends March 31.

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March 28, 1935