March 12, 1935

LIB

Charles Edward Bothwell

Liberal

Mr. BOTHWELL:

If I had gone to California last November, bought a car in that state, and came back to Canada this month, I would not be permitted to bring it into Canada, although I had driven it those three or four months?

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CON

Robert Charles Matthews (Minister of National Revenue)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. MATTHEWS:

The hon. member is quite correct.

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Item agreed to.


DEPARTMENT OP FINANCE


Salaries, $293,957; contingencies, $33,026. Inspector General of Banks- Salaries and contingencies, $22,000.


LIB

Ian Alistair Mackenzie

Liberal

Mr. MACKENZIE (Vancouver):

Is it the intention of the Department of Finance to disclose to hon. members complete information with respect to the' newly formed Bank of Canada, its officers, the salaries of the

staff, and such other information as might be deemed to be in the best interests of the public service?

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Hon. E. N. RHODES (Minister of Finance):

That is a comprehensive question, involving a matter of major policy. In the past we have followed a policy of marked distinction in dealing with separate bodies, although such bodies may have been set up by parliament. I should say that it would be quite fitting and proper that the salaries of the officers named in the first instance should be disclosed. But the minutiae of the cost of management, the salaries of individual employees, how much ink they use, how much sealing wax and that sort of thing-I do not use that illustration for the purpose of making the question of my hon. friend appear ludicrous, because it is a perfectly fair question; I merely carry it to that extreme point as indicating that the intimate and minute details of the management of the bank would not I think be a proper subject for inquiry and disclosure as a matter of course. That is at the moment my reaction to the question put to me by my hon. friend, but I should like to turn it over in my mind a little furtheT before I give him an official and final answer, because it is a question of policy which should be settled on a basis satisfactory to the house and to public opinion generally, rather than one which should be permitted to become a matter of controversy as to how far we should or should not go in the disclosing of information. I would prefer, therefore, that my hon. friend should not at the moment press for a minute or detailed reply to his inquiry; before the session is over I shall be quite prepared to make a statement as to government policy in the matter.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

Does the salary of the superintendent in bankruptcy come under Finance?

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

Yes, under another item.

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LIB

John Campbell Elliott

Liberal

Mr. ELLIOTT:

The question I wanted to ask is similar to one I asked a year ago, and perhaps it will save time if I mention it now. When the superintendent of bankruptcy was being appointed it was suggested by the minister who was piloting the bill through the house that it was hoped the result of this appointment would be to reduce the cost of bankruptcy proceedings and that the creditors would get a greater percentage of their claims than they had previously been receiving. I was anxious to know if the minister could give me for the past year a statement of these amounts: What were the claims filed, the total

Supply-Finance

amounts of the assets of the bankrupts, and the amount that actually reached the hands of the creditors?

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

I merely called this item

of civil government to-night, Mr. Chairman, for the purpose of qualifying the department. I did not come prepared to answer questions with respect to details of bankruptcy, because that item will be called on another occasion, when, if this will be satisfactory, I shall be pleased to give my hon. friend an answer to the question he has put.

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LIB
LIB

Albert Frederick Totzke

Liberal

Mr. TOTZKE:

Has this item any relation to the comptroller of the treasury?

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

That comes under another item, but I have no objection to my hon. friend putting his question on this item.

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LIB

Albert Frederick Totzke

Liberal

Mr. TOTZKE:

Is there anything in this

vote dealing with the comptroller of the treasury?

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

Not specifically.

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LIB
CON
CON

James J. Donnelly

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. DONNELLY:

Who is doing the work that was done last year by the tariff adviser?

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CON

Edgar Nelson Rhodes (Minister of Finance and Receiver General)

Conservative (1867-1942)

Mr. RHODES:

That is an added obligation resting on the shoulders of the remainder of the staff.

Mr. CASGRAlN: We will take note of

that.

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March 12, 1935